We probably need to remove the version policy statement in the
default-parent pom.

On 8 February 2011 16:53, zoe slattery <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sure - I will try that. It maybe that's all we need.
>>
>> I think so too.  Zoe, could you try upgrading to the 2.3.4 maven
>> bundle plugin which has just been released?
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 17:46, Felix Meschberger<[email protected]>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Shouldn't BND recognize this situation ? That's how I understood the
>>> docs, anyway.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Felix
>>>
>>> Am Dienstag, den 08.02.2011, 16:31 +0000 schrieb zoe slattery:
>>>>
>>>> Yes - BND will do it, I think we just need to tell it that we are an
>>>> 'implementer' , looks like its default assumption is 'consumer'.
>>>> Z
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I misread the point. This is because we haven't told bnd to
>>>>> generate a version range for implementors, as I recall there is
>>>>> something specific you need to set.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8 February 2011 16:12, Alasdair Nottingham<[email protected]>    wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is probably because the proxy pom.xml which defines the version
>>>>>> of proxy-api to depend on has 0.4-SNAPSHOT in it. If it was
>>>>>> 0.3-SNAPSHOT you would get the right version range.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alasdair
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8 February 2011 15:53, zoe slattery<[email protected]>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm - well - I reverted my change and actually the range for the
>>>>>>> import was
>>>>>>> wrong before. My changes made no difference, but I do agree that it
>>>>>>> needs to
>>>>>>> be fixed and will work on it.
>>>>>>> Zoe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, I think the result is plain wrong.
>>>>>>>> For example proxy/proxy-impl imports the org.apache.aries.proxy
>>>>>>>> package with a [0.4,1) range.
>>>>>>>> However, given it implements the spec, the semantic versioning
>>>>>>>> guidelines indicates that the range should be [0.4,0.5).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 16:03, zoe slattery<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK - I have checked in a change under
>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARIES-571 which reverts the
>>>>>>>>> dependency
>>>>>>>>> between Aries modules.
>>>>>>>>> I have checked that import ranges are calculated correctly by the
>>>>>>>>> maven
>>>>>>>>> bundle plugin. The range is now based on the version of the
>>>>>>>>> dependency.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, for example, a module that depends (as a consumer) on
>>>>>>>>> util-0.4-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>> will import util packages in the range [0.4, 1.0). A module that
>>>>>>>>> depends
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> util-0.3 will import util packages in the range [0.3, 1.0).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Everything builds and all the tests run.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Zoe
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually, after thinking about it, I don't think there's much
>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>   So please go ahead.
>>>>>>>>>> We also need to make sure about the versions range we use for
>>>>>>>>>> imports,
>>>>>>>>>> i.e. up to the next major for a used package, and up to the minor
>>>>>>>>>> version if the package is implemented somehow.  BND is supposed to
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> that automatically now, but we'd have to double check.
>>>>>>>>>> Also, if we keep old versions for dependencies, we'd still need to
>>>>>>>>>> test with recent ones I think, so not sure how to deal with that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 15:38, Guillaume Nodet<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think the original code did not use version ranges and early
>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>> of maven bundle plugin did not allow for policies on creating
>>>>>>>>>>> ranges.
>>>>>>>>>>> That can be change if needed obviously.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Before doing any breaking changes in the way we release / version
>>>>>>>>>>> packages or bundles, can we continue the discussion and have a
>>>>>>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>>>>>> picture where we are going to ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There's no need to do the work multiple times, so if you're gonna
>>>>>>>>>>> break that link, what do you plan to put instead ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 15:31, zoe
>>>>>>>>>>> slattery<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is something that I would like to change in the way we
>>>>>>>>>>>> build
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aries.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking because I don't really understand why it is there in
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Today, if I am building blueprint at version 0.4-SNAPSHOT, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> blueprint
>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle manifests which are generated all import versions of
>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>> aries
>>>>>>>>>>>> components in the range [0.4, 1.0). This is true even if I
>>>>>>>>>>>> modify a
>>>>>>>>>>>> blueprint pom to explicitly depend on, say
>>>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.proxy at
>>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>> 0.3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The import range is calculated (by some logic in the default
>>>>>>>>>>>> parent
>>>>>>>>>>>> pom)
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> a way that creates a tie between all of the aries components, it
>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>> overrides the default behaviour of the maven bundle plugin which
>>>>>>>>>>>> calculates
>>>>>>>>>>>> import ranges based on the version of the dependency.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In some cases I notice that people have worked around this
>>>>>>>>>>>> behaviour
>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>>>>>> coding import ranges in the pom, see for example,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/pom.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>> and the way that it imports org.apache.aries.quiesce.manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to remove the logic from the default parent pom
>>>>>>>>>>>> that does
>>>>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> However - I don't understand why it is there in the first place,
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> explain?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Zoe
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Alasdair Nottingham
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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