On 21 February 2011 12:19, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:28, Alasdair Nottingham <[email protected]> wrote:
>> So assume we released util as a 1.0 bundle, why would that prevent
>> blueprint 0.4
>> using it? I don't think I've seen anything that says you have to bump your 
>> major
>> version based on the dependency doing so. That seems like a crazy idea. You
>> should only bump your major version if you have to.
>
> Ok, so let's think about that a bit more.  I think the case is a bit
> different if the package is exported or not.
> If the package is exported, the dependent package will be imported and
> end up in uses constraints, so if you change the import range to be
> incompatible, you actually have a major incompatibility I think.  If I
> have a bundle that depend on both packages, my bundle would clearly
> become unusable with the new version, which means it's a major change
> on the package actually.
> If the package isn't exported, the change would at least require other
> updates in bundles, so while the packages would still be fully
> compatible, the bundle version should be incremented from at least a
> minor version imho.
> Here, I'm not sure that any package depending on aries-util is
> actually exported, but we'd have to check.
>

I do not think this is how uses should be interpreted. uses is designed to solve
the problem whereby a package A returns, or receives types from package B and
you want to ensure the bundle and its clients have a consistent view
of A and B. It
is not there to ensure that bundle A and bundle B share the same copy
of a package
A when package A is strictly part of the internals. As a result the
scenario you describe
would never happen.

>> I would also say that until we have had a vote about exactly what we are 
>> doing
>> regarding releasing and versioning this kind of activity is a little 
>> premature.
>
> Well, I'm raising things that we need to keep in mind when we vote for
> the policy we'll use.   We were supposed to use a release cycle at the
> component level, so I'm actually trying to release blueprint without
> having to release everything, that's all.  If/when we move that at the
> bundle level, things will be even more complicated.
>

I am not saying that raising the issue is premature, I am saying that creating a
branch is premature.

>> Alasdair
>>
>> On 21 February 2011 11:21, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Sorry for not being more clear, I was referring to the following change:
>>>
>>>> Removed:
>>>>     
>>>> aries/trunk/util/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/util/SingleServiceTracker.java
>>>
>>> One class has been deleted from a package, so that's a major
>>> incompabible change which needs aries-util version to be bumped to 1.0
>>> according to semantic versioning rules.  What I'm not sure is how it
>>> affect other projects, for example blueprint trunk would need to
>>> change the aries-util dependency from [0.3,1) to [1,2) and I'm not
>>> sure how the blueprint version should reflect that change.
>>>
>>> I don't really want to include an update to a new major version of a
>>> dependency in a minor release of blueprint, so I think we should bump
>>> blueprint to 1.0, hence my point of creating a 0.4 branch for
>>> blueprint.
>>>
>>> Hope it's a bit more clear now.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:12, Alasdair Nottingham <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Can you clarify what in this commit you are objecting to? There were
>>>> rather a large number of
>>>> changes not all of which are included in your email.
>>>>
>>>> Why would you create a branch for blueprint 0.4? What is the point?
>>>>
>>>> Alasdair
>>>>
>>>> On 21 February 2011 10:55, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I come back to this commit as this is a *major* incompatibility change.
>>>>> The util package major version need be bumped up.  I'm not quite sure
>>>>> what kind of changes that impact on downstream bundles (blueprint,
>>>>> jndi, jpa, etc...) but I think the cascading effect is that their
>>>>> major version need to be bumped too.  Can someone please have a look
>>>>> at that and fix the problems ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll create a branch for blueprint 0.4.x which can work with other
>>>>> components in 0.3 as that's what is implied the version range is
>>>>> afaik.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 19:22, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> While I do not question the validity of such changes, it tends to
>>>>>> confirm my impression that we have components that are quite tied
>>>>>> together and that we'll never be able to release them independantly
>>>>>> (apart from bug fix release which do not matter here).
>>>>>> How easy would such things be if we had several trunks, one jira per
>>>>>> component, each jira associated to a different version in jira...
>>>>>> This also changes the constraints on the packages imported by a
>>>>>> component, so you'd have to change some package versions.  That's
>>>>>> kinda bad as if a user want to update one bundle, he has to actually
>>>>>> update a bunch of bundles.  if we're going to use a different version
>>>>>> for each component, we'd have to keep track of the compatibility
>>>>>> somewhere so that this can appear in the release notes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i'll stop to lobby on the release cycle versioning, but I just want to
>>>>>> make everyone knows where we're going.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if we'll have to change to a more manual management of the
>>>>>> imported packages in the pom, disabling * packages expansions by bnd
>>>>>> and also disabling auto computation of version ranges to make sure
>>>>>> we're aware of changes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, February 4, 2011,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Author: timothyjward
>>>>>>> Date: Fri Feb  4 16:13:32 2011
>>>>>>> New Revision: 1067207
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1067207&view=rev
>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>> ARIES-567 - Add a common utility for safe unregistration
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Added:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jpa/jpa-container-context/src/test/java/org/apache/aries/util/
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jpa/jpa-container-context/src/test/java/org/apache/aries/util/AriesFrameworkUtil.java
>>>>>>>     aries/trunk/jpa/jpa-container/src/test/java/org/apache/aries/util/
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jpa/jpa-container/src/test/java/org/apache/aries/util/AriesFrameworkUtil.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/util/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/util/tracker/SingleServiceTracker.java
>>>>>>>       - copied, changed from r1067146, 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/util/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/util/SingleServiceTracker.java
>>>>>>> Removed:
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/util/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/util/SingleServiceTracker.java
>>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>>     aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-annotation-impl/pom.xml
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-annotation-impl/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/annotation/impl/Activator.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-cm/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/compendium/cm/CmManagedServiceFactory.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-cm/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/compendium/cm/ManagedObjectManager.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/BlueprintContainerImpl.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/BlueprintExtender.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/ServiceRecipe.java
>>>>>>>     aries/trunk/jmx/jmx-blueprint-core/pom.xml
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jmx/jmx-blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/jmx/blueprint/impl/BlueprintState.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jndi/jndi-rmi/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/jndi/rmi/Activator.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jndi/jndi-url/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/jndi/url/Activator.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jpa/jpa-container-context/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/jpa/container/context/impl/GlobalPersistenceManager.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jpa/jpa-container-context/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/jpa/container/context/impl/PersistenceContextManager.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jpa/jpa-container/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/jpa/container/impl/CountingEntityManagerFactory.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jpa/jpa-container/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/jpa/container/impl/EntityManagerFactoryManager.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/jpa/jpa-container/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/jpa/container/impl/PersistenceBundleManager.java
>>>>>>>     aries/trunk/quiesce/quiesce-manager/pom.xml
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/quiesce/quiesce-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/quiesce/manager/impl/Activator.java
>>>>>>>     aries/trunk/transaction/pom.xml
>>>>>>>     aries/trunk/transaction/transaction-manager/pom.xml
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/transaction/transaction-manager/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/transaction/TransactionManagerService.java
>>>>>>>     aries/trunk/transaction/transaction-wrappers/pom.xml
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/transaction/transaction-wrappers/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/transaction/jdbc/Activator.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/util/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/util/AriesFrameworkUtil.java
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/util/src/test/java/org/apache/aries/util/SingleServiceTrackerTest.java
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-annotation-impl/pom.xml
>>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-annotation-impl/pom.xml?rev=1067207&r1=1067206&r2=1067207&view=diff
>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>> --- aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-annotation-impl/pom.xml (original)
>>>>>>> +++ aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-annotation-impl/pom.xml Fri Feb  4 
>>>>>>> 16:13:32 2011
>>>>>>> @@ -57,6 +57,10 @@
>>>>>>>            
>>>>>>> <artifactId>org.apache.aries.blueprint.annotation.api</artifactId>
>>>>>>>        </dependency>
>>>>>>>        <dependency>
>>>>>>> +          <groupId>org.apache.aries</groupId>
>>>>>>> +          <artifactId>org.apache.aries.util</artifactId>
>>>>>>> +      </dependency>
>>>>>>> +      <dependency>
>>>>>>>            <groupId>org.osgi</groupId>
>>>>>>>            <artifactId>org.osgi.core</artifactId>
>>>>>>>            <scope>provided</scope>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-annotation-impl/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/annotation/impl/Activator.java
>>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-annotation-impl/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/annotation/impl/Activator.java?rev=1067207&r1=1067206&r2=1067207&view=diff
>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>> --- 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-annotation-impl/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/annotation/impl/Activator.java
>>>>>>>  (original)
>>>>>>> +++ 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-annotation-impl/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/annotation/impl/Activator.java
>>>>>>>  Fri Feb  4 16:13:32 2011
>>>>>>> @@ -19,11 +19,12 @@ package org.apache.aries.blueprint.annot
>>>>>>>  import java.util.Dictionary;
>>>>>>>  import java.util.Hashtable;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +import 
>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint.annotation.service.BlueprintAnnotationScanner;
>>>>>>> +import org.apache.aries.util.AriesFrameworkUtil;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.BundleActivator;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.BundleContext;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.Constants;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.ServiceRegistration;
>>>>>>> -import 
>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.blueprint.annotation.service.BlueprintAnnotationScanner;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  public class Activator implements BundleActivator {
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @@ -36,9 +37,7 @@ public class Activator implements Bundle
>>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      public void stop(BundleContext context) {
>>>>>>> -        if (sr != null) {
>>>>>>> -            sr.unregister();
>>>>>>> -        }
>>>>>>> +      AriesFrameworkUtil.safeUnregisterService(sr);
>>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-cm/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/compendium/cm/CmManagedServiceFactory.java
>>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-cm/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/compendium/cm/CmManagedServiceFactory.java?rev=1067207&r1=1067206&r2=1067207&view=diff
>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>> --- 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-cm/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/compendium/cm/CmManagedServiceFactory.java
>>>>>>>  (original)
>>>>>>> +++ 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-cm/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/compendium/cm/CmManagedServiceFactory.java
>>>>>>>  Fri Feb  4 16:13:32 2011
>>>>>>> @@ -35,6 +35,7 @@ import org.apache.aries.blueprint.Servic
>>>>>>>  import org.apache.aries.blueprint.container.ServiceListener;
>>>>>>>  import org.apache.aries.blueprint.utils.JavaUtils;
>>>>>>>  import org.apache.aries.blueprint.utils.ReflectionUtils;
>>>>>>> +import org.apache.aries.util.AriesFrameworkUtil;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.Bundle;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.Constants;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.ServiceReference;
>>>>>>> @@ -100,9 +101,7 @@ public class CmManagedServiceFactory {
>>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      public void destroy() {
>>>>>>> -        if (registration != null) {
>>>>>>> -            registration.unregister();
>>>>>>> -        }
>>>>>>> +        AriesFrameworkUtil.safeUnregisterService(registration);
>>>>>>>          for (Map.Entry<ServiceRegistration, Object> entry : 
>>>>>>> services.entrySet()) {
>>>>>>>              destroy(entry.getValue(), entry.getKey(), BUNDLE_STOPPING);
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>> @@ -119,7 +118,7 @@ public class CmManagedServiceFactory {
>>>>>>>              }
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>>          destroyComponent(component, code);
>>>>>>> -        registration.unregister();
>>>>>>> +        AriesFrameworkUtil.safeUnregisterService(registration);
>>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      public Map<ServiceRegistration, Object> getServiceMap() {
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-cm/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/compendium/cm/ManagedObjectManager.java
>>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-cm/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/compendium/cm/ManagedObjectManager.java?rev=1067207&r1=1067206&r2=1067207&view=diff
>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>> --- 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-cm/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/compendium/cm/ManagedObjectManager.java
>>>>>>>  (original)
>>>>>>> +++ 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-cm/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/compendium/cm/ManagedObjectManager.java
>>>>>>>  Fri Feb  4 16:13:32 2011
>>>>>>> @@ -25,6 +25,7 @@ import java.util.HashMap;
>>>>>>>  import java.util.List;
>>>>>>>  import java.util.Properties;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +import org.apache.aries.util.AriesFrameworkUtil;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.ServiceRegistration;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.service.cm.ConfigurationException;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.service.cm.ManagedService;
>>>>>>> @@ -60,7 +61,7 @@ public class ManagedObjectManager {
>>>>>>>              reg.remove(cm);
>>>>>>>              if (reg.isEmpty()) {
>>>>>>>                  map.remove(key);
>>>>>>> -                reg.getRegistration().unregister();
>>>>>>> +                
>>>>>>> AriesFrameworkUtil.safeUnregisterService(reg.getRegistration());
>>>>>>>              }
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/BlueprintContainerImpl.java
>>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/BlueprintContainerImpl.java?rev=1067207&r1=1067206&r2=1067207&view=diff
>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>> --- 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/BlueprintContainerImpl.java
>>>>>>>  (original)
>>>>>>> +++ 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/BlueprintContainerImpl.java
>>>>>>>  Fri Feb  4 16:13:32 2011
>>>>>>> @@ -62,6 +62,7 @@ import org.apache.aries.blueprint.reflec
>>>>>>>  import org.apache.aries.blueprint.utils.HeaderParser;
>>>>>>>  import org.apache.aries.blueprint.utils.JavaUtils;
>>>>>>>  import org.apache.aries.blueprint.utils.HeaderParser.PathElement;
>>>>>>> +import org.apache.aries.util.AriesFrameworkUtil;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.Bundle;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.BundleContext;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.Constants;
>>>>>>> @@ -812,9 +813,7 @@ public class BlueprintContainerImpl impl
>>>>>>>          if (timeoutFuture != null) {
>>>>>>>              timeoutFuture.cancel(false);
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>> -        if (registration != null) {
>>>>>>> -            registration.unregister();
>>>>>>> -        }
>>>>>>> +        AriesFrameworkUtil.safeUnregisterService(registration);
>>>>>>>          if (handlerSet != null) {
>>>>>>>              handlerSet.removeListener(this);
>>>>>>>              handlerSet.destroy();
>>>>>>> @@ -845,9 +844,7 @@ public class BlueprintContainerImpl impl
>>>>>>>          if (timeoutFuture != null) {
>>>>>>>              timeoutFuture.cancel(false);
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>> -        if (registration != null) {
>>>>>>> -            registration.unregister();
>>>>>>> -        }
>>>>>>> +        AriesFrameworkUtil.safeUnregisterService(registration);
>>>>>>>          if (handlerSet != null) {
>>>>>>>              handlerSet.removeListener(this);
>>>>>>>              handlerSet.destroy();
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/BlueprintExtender.java
>>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/BlueprintExtender.java?rev=1067207&r1=1067206&r2=1067207&view=diff
>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>> --- 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/BlueprintExtender.java
>>>>>>>  (original)
>>>>>>> +++ 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/BlueprintExtender.java
>>>>>>>  Fri Feb  4 16:13:32 2011
>>>>>>> @@ -39,9 +39,10 @@ import org.apache.aries.blueprint.namesp
>>>>>>>  import org.apache.aries.blueprint.utils.HeaderParser;
>>>>>>>  import org.apache.aries.blueprint.utils.HeaderParser.PathElement;
>>>>>>>  import org.apache.aries.proxy.ProxyManager;
>>>>>>> -import org.apache.aries.util.SingleServiceTracker;
>>>>>>> -import 
>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.util.SingleServiceTracker.SingleServiceListener;
>>>>>>> +import org.apache.aries.util.AriesFrameworkUtil;
>>>>>>>  import org.apache.aries.util.tracker.RecursiveBundleTracker;
>>>>>>> +import org.apache.aries.util.tracker.SingleServiceTracker;
>>>>>>> +import 
>>>>>>> org.apache.aries.util.tracker.SingleServiceTracker.SingleServiceListener;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.Bundle;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.BundleActivator;
>>>>>>>  import org.osgi.framework.BundleContext;
>>>>>>> @@ -154,10 +155,9 @@ public class BlueprintExtender implement
>>>>>>>                 bt.close();
>>>>>>>          }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -        parserServiceReg.unregister();
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> -        if (quiesceParticipantReg != null)
>>>>>>> -               quiesceParticipantReg.unregister();
>>>>>>> +        AriesFrameworkUtil.safeUnregisterService(parserServiceReg);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> +        
>>>>>>> AriesFrameworkUtil.safeUnregisterService(quiesceParticipantReg);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          // Orderly shutdown of containers
>>>>>>>          while (!containers.isEmpty()) {
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modified: 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/ServiceRecipe.java
>>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/ServiceRecipe.java?rev=1067207&r1=1067206&r2=1067207&view=diff
>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>> --- 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/ServiceRecipe.java
>>>>>>>  (original)
>>>>>>> +++ 
>>>>>>> aries/trunk/blueprint/blueprint-core/src/main/java/org/apache/aries/blueprint/container/ServiceRecipe.java
>>>>>>>  Fri Feb  4 16:13:32 2011
>>>>>>> @@ -44,6 +44,7 @@ import org.apache.aries.blueprint.proxy.
>>>>>>>  import org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>>>> ------------------------
>>>>> Open Source SOA
>>>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Alasdair Nottingham
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Guillaume Nodet
>>> ------------------------
>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
>>> ------------------------
>>> Open Source SOA
>>> http://fusesource.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alasdair Nottingham
>> [email protected]
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Guillaume Nodet
> ------------------------
> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> ------------------------
> Open Source SOA
> http://fusesource.com
>



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