On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 17:04, Jeremy Hughes <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 23 November 2011 14:13, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Given we don't follow semantic versioning until the API is stabilized (so
> > 1.0.0), can we agree on a better set of rules for in the mean time ?
> >
> > I'd propose the following:
> >  * on a given component (blueprint, application ,etc...), use the same
> > version for all packages and bundles
>
> That would imply we wouldn't release by bundle, but by 'component' aka
> top level module. The thought was if we practiced getting the semantic
> versioning right before we go to 1.0.0 we'll have a better chance of
> it succeeding when we do get to 1.0.0. I have to admit it's been
> fairly tortuous getting per-bundle semantic versioning releases to
> work. I still think it's the right thing long term. Maybe this is just
> a maturity thing and getting it to work on a per-component basis first
> may help us get releases out more quickly in the short term. My
> concern is we may end up with the bundles in a component being too
> tightly coupled and pulling them apart again for 1.0.0 becomes very
> hard. Once we have had a short run of 0.x releases with no
> deprecations then I think we can move to 1.0.0.
>

We would still be able to release per bundle, especially for bug fixes
(we'd allow blueprint-core-0.4.0 and blueprint-cm-0.4.1 to coexist).
But it's true that we could not release blueprint-core-0.5 without
releasing blueprint-api-0.5.

I'm not really concerned about ties between bundles inside a component.
 For those that want to make sure there's no strong ties, the uber-bundles
are always available.


>
> That said, I think some of the difficulties in consuming the latest
> release have been down to API changes rather than the semantic
> versioning approach. Since 0.x is subject to API change at any time, I
> would have thought having a continuous integration of the trunks of
> CXF / Karaf / Aries would be good to ensure things don't get too
> broken (for long).
>

Using snapshots is really a pain and having to sync across 5 projects is
just not manageable.


>
> I'm warming to this idea, purely because it is pragmatic and helps
> consumers in the near term. I'd like to hear others' thoughts first
> though.
>
> >  * make sure we use a tight range [0.4, 0.5) for importing aries packages
> > because we allow breaking compatibility in minor releases (it also gives
> > place to point releases)
>
> This is the case in the latest Blueprint release. The JNDI, JPA,
> Transaction and I believe Application modules are done like this too -
> I believe Tim Ward put those changes in.
>
>
Yes, that's right, I missed that.


> >
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> >
> >
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> > Guillaume Nodet
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> >
>



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