Tim Ward
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Apache Aries PMC member & Enterprise OSGi advocate
Enterprise OSGi in Action (http://www.manning.com/cummins)
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> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:47:42 +0000
> Subject: Re: Roadmap for Apache Aries 1.0
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> 
> I took your last para to be a suggestion for blueprint- my mistake.
> It seems to be the one giving us the most indigestion.  By suggesting
> util first, as its at the bottom of the stack, is there a criterion
> that says a 1.0 release can't/shouldn't depend on pre-1.0 modules?

I think that there should be, otherwise you have a confusing difference between 
the pre 1.0 and post 1.0 semantic versioning we do. Some dependencies would 
need minor ranges and others major. Not easy to understand from the outside!

> 
> On 25 November 2011 16:31, Alasdair Nottingham <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hmm, well I might pick on util first myself, but only because it is at the
> > bottom of the stack. Blueprint is the bit that has the most work required I
> > think.
> >
> > On 25 November 2011 16:19, Graham Charters <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> +1 to the criteria and +1 to picking on Blueprint first.
> >>
> >> On 25 November 2011 12:31, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > As a reference, here are the related code that implement custom
> >> > NamespaceHandlers:
> >> >
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/cxf/trunk/rt/core/src/main/java/org/apache/cxf/bus/blueprint/
> >> >
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/karaf/trunk/jaas/jasypt/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/jaas/jasypt/handler/
> >> >
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/karaf/trunk/shell/console/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/shell/console/commands/
> >> >
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/karaf/trunk/jaas/config/src/main/java/org/apache/karaf/jaas/config/impl/
> >> >
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/camel/trunk/components/camel-blueprint/src/main/java/org/apache/camel/blueprint/handler/
> >> >
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/xbean/trunk/xbean-blueprint/src/main/java/org/apache/xbean/blueprint/cm/
> >> >
> >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/xbean/trunk/xbean-blueprint/src/main/java/org/apache/xbean/blueprint/context/impl/
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 13:17, Alasdair Nottingham <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to propose we come up with a road map for getting the
> >> bundles
> >> >> in aries up to the 1.0.0 release. Some things I think we need to do are:
> >> >>
> >> >>   1. Ensure we comply with relevant OSGi CTs
> >> >>   2. Ensure we do semantic versioning
> >> >>   3. Ensure we have a well defined API for extending and reusing
> >> blueprint
> >> >>   such that our internals are not exposed and we can ensure we don't
> >> break
> >> >>   CXF, XBeans-Blueprint, Karaf et al
> >> >>
> >> >> Based on the discussions over the last few weeks I would like to
> >> suggest we
> >> >> have a discussion about what is needed by extenders of blueprint. While
> >> >> those working on CXF, XBeans-blueprint Karaf etc all know how they are
> >> >> using blueprint that information is not known to the whole aries
> >> community
> >> >> causing may issues. We can then move to having an API we can keep
> >> stable,
> >> >> and internals we can break.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thoughts?
> >> >> Alasdair
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Alasdair Nottingham
> >> >> [email protected]
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > ------------------------
> >> > Guillaume Nodet
> >> > ------------------------
> >> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> >> > ------------------------
> >> > Open Source SOA
> >> > http://fusesource.com
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alasdair Nottingham
> > [email protected]
                                          

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