On 04.01.2017 18:52, Holly Cummins wrote:
I also think if the root problem is test framework doesn't properly handle
using the most recent code from peer projects then that is the thing that
is broken...
Addressing this problem is what the 'build with most recent versions' build did 
- it would ratchet the versions of all internal dependencies up to the latest 
level and then run the tests. So across the two builds there were two test 
runs, one to make sure everything still worked with the minimum declared level, 
and one with the latest level.

However, that build has been broken for a while, I think.
I know. One problem with this approach is that it took me quite a while to understand the approach at all. Theoretically I think it was a good idea but in practice I think it did not really work well. At least when I started with Aries the build with the latest versions never worked and I did not understand it well enough to fix it. I also doubt it works when we have maintenance branches like for Aries JPA 1.x.

What I try to achieve is to make the build simpler. So people with less experience and or less involvement in Aries can still understand it.

You can call it lazy, Felix ... and it is true to a degree but it is also an effort to decrease the complexity in development. The more complex development is the more errors we make and the less new people we attract. I think in an open source project it is necessary to keep things approachable.

As a user I was always glad that karaf had features for blueprint and other Aries bundles as so I had at least one tested combination. For people who used plain Aries it must have been a horror to keep up with all the little releases and combine the bundles into a working whole. With the release by subproject it is much easier to explain to someone which versions to use. It is also easier to document the releases on the lists or in blogs. It is a huge difference for users if they need to follow 10 subprojects or 100 individual bundle releases.

Christian

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Christian Schneider
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