Can we at least fix the logo? It's really bad :D

Anyone opposed to removing the text from the logo so we can just use markup?

- Ray

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:47 AM David Jencks <david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> You can clone what I have now, but I wonder if we should get the
> publishing steps working and get the repos under aries first, on the theory
> that the preview is as good as the current site :-)
>
> David Jencks
>
> > On Aug 10, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com.INVALID>
> wrote:
> >
> > @djenks I took a quick look at the preview site and it looks fine to me.
> > The logo is clearly in terrible shape ;) but we can fix that I think. I
> > happen to know a graphic artist who might be able to fix it and turn it
> > into a higher quality version (ideally svg, if we could find the source
> of
> > the image that would be the best route.)
> >
> > Now, as far as I can tell, a lot of the site content is super outdated
> and
> > I don't believe anyone has maintained `Application` for a very long time.
> > Also, there is no central build anymore so almost all the "Building
> Aries"
> > is wrong since most projects are standalone builds. I would remove almost
> > all of that stuff.
> >
> > Once you have a repo with docs I can clone maybe I can take a crack at
> > removing some of the cruft.
> >
> > - Ray
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:11 AM Raymond Auge <raymond.a...@liferay.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hey so I don't want to interrupt since it seems like you guys are
> running
> >> with this and I don't want to start a parallel stream.
> >>
> >> One key point I want to make sure we all consider is that there _are_ at
> >> slew of external projects (cdi, component-dsl, containers,
> >> jaxrs-whiteboard, journaled-events, jpa, rsa, tx-control) that need to
> >> somehow be integrated into the process with the caveat that their own
> site
> >> content should really be in their own repository alongside the source
> code,
> >> again for simplicity.
> >>
> >> I thought Antora could do that (since it had a git client build it), but
> >> now I'm no longer sure about that?
> >>
> >> - Ray
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:48 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Le dim. 9 août 2020 à 16:43, David Jencks <david.a.jen...@gmail.com> a
> >>> écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> Well, your talend example
> >>>> - isn’t self contained
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> As mentionned, just used it as a proof we dont need a front build.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - doesn’t have the css and js processing/compression/checking that a
> built
> >>>> Antora UI has
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Only for customizations which does not impact perfs - or is likely
> faster
> >>> than a custom fulll build like antora thanks cdn.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> which would get a -1 from me.
> >>>>
> >>>> It also has the script references in head-meta.hbs rather than
> >>>> head-scripts.hbs, I have to wonder why.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> To have script per page and not global without a complex if logic, not
> >>> needed for aries.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I have no problem with a bootstrap based UI if the above problems are
> >>>> fixed, but constructing one is beyond my current abilities or
> interest.
> >>>> Since generally no one is interested in websites let alone their UI I
> >>> think
> >>>> sticking with the simplest possible modification of the default UI
> makes
> >>>> sense.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I wouldnt use antora like ui, it is not that common for aries or asf
> users
> >>> and requires a lot of tuning to make it doc friendly - talend flavor
> was
> >>> done with a doc team and layout was not (upfront) obvious for me.
> >>> Guess we cna inherit the nav mecanism.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> David Jencks
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:27 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le sam. 8 août 2020 à 20:25, David Jencks <david.a.jen...@gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:david.a.jen...@gmail.com>> a
> >>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2020, at 10:31 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>> rmannibu...@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Le sam. 8 août 2020 à 08:46, David Jencks <
> david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> >>> a
> >>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Supplemental UI is a horrible workaround for the insufficient UI
> >>>>>> builder.
> >>>>>>>> I’ve somewhat improved the UI builder by making it a separate
> >>> project,
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> making it able to aggregate lots of UI bits: antora-ui-builder <
> >>>>>>>> https://gitlab.com/djencks/antora-ui-builder>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If we go with it, can we fork it at asf?
> >>>>>>> Not depending on one - even very good ;) - man project is always
> >>> saner,
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>>> already bite us by the past.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I hesitated to suggest using it for that reason.  We can’t fork it
> at
> >>>>>> Apache (mpl2.0) but anyone can fork it at GitLab.  After working
> with
> >>>>>> node.js stuff for a few months I have the impression that the vast
> >>>> majority
> >>>>>> of node projects are one-man efforts.  The idea of a builder is an
> >>> open
> >>>>>> issue in the default UI, but I got tired of waiting and wrote one.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The other reason I think my builder to start with is reasonable is
> >>> that
> >>>>>> it’s very easy to turn a project using it into a fork of the default
> >>> UI.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now we can just move on bootstrap and use cdn, supplemental ui is
> >>> then
> >>>>>>> mainly just about hbs/templates and does not need much front build
> >>> (as
> >>>>>> most
> >>>>>>> asf sites).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don’t understand what you mean, could you clarify?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think we’ll want to change the colors (at least I do) which
> >>> involves
> >>>> css
> >>>>>> which can’t be done with supplemental UI.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It can since you fully control the templates - this is what is done
> in
> >>>> the
> >>>>> link i shared on a bootstrap base.
> >>>>> Just tune the hbs template.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I’m planning to set up a UI project using this for Aries tomorrow
> >>> and
> >>>>>>>> include the logo, Apache feather, and perhaps lunr search… that’s
> >>> why
> >>>> I
> >>>>>> was
> >>>>>>>> asking if Aries has a favorite color :-)  Using my ui-builder
> >>> project
> >>>>>> may
> >>>>>>>> tie us to something less likely to be maintained than Antora, but
> >>> it
> >>>>>>>> certainly separates the alterations from the default UI clearly,
> >>> which
> >>>>>>>> forking does not.  Lets get something that looks good and discuss
> >>> it
> >>>>>>>> further.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I agree checking all the links is a good idea :-).  Camel uses the
> >>>> xref
> >>>>>>>> checker and a link checker, I think I’ve seen a different link
> >>> checker
> >>>>>>>> strongly recommended, I’ll try to find it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Are you suggesting that the “full content” should be one “old”
> >>> version
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> that the “currently relevant content” should be a separate
> “latest”
> >>>>>>>> version?  Otherwise I’m not sure what you are suggesting.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 11:17 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> About the theme, Dan says default one is not for prod so we
> should
> >>>> fork
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>> and just do an aries theme instead of inheriting from default
> one.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/tree/master/documentation/src/main/antora/supplemental-ui
> >>>>>>>>> can help to bootstrap it (needs to import a few tpl from default
> >>>> antora
> >>>>>>>>> theme). It is based on bootstrap but any stack works.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> About the content: I'd ensure current links - except index.hml -
> >>> are
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>> broken and maybe register new clean up content on antora version?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Know tomee did it, got a clean site, then imported back old
> >>> content
> >>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>> made the site messy so not fully sure we should do it but the
> >>> clean
> >>>>>>>> version
> >>>>>>>>> got some nice feedback  from users.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Le sam. 8 août 2020 à 02:48, David Jencks <
> >>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> >>>> a
> >>>>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I’ve done about 90% of (5).  What remains is mostly escaped html
> >>>> links
> >>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>> tables.  I suspect this can be condensed using attributes.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at the preview
> >>>>>>>>>> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html <
> >>>>>>>>>> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html>.
> A
> >>>> lot
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>> the content looks to me as if it may be totally obsolete and
> >>>>>> misleading
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> the site might be improved by removing it.  Fixing the html
> links
> >>>> will
> >>>>>>>> be a
> >>>>>>>>>> noticeable amount of work and if we’re going to drop the pages
> >>> I’d
> >>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>> avoid doing it.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Next step is to refine the left side nav.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 3:37 PM, David Jencks <
> >>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> That’s my idea :-)
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The current site doesn’t seem very themed.  Does Aries have a
> >>>>>> favorite
> >>>>>>>>>> color?  I find a color distinction between header and footer and
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>> body a
> >>>>>>>>>> nice framing of the content.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> BTW I’m most of the way through (5).  I realize I committed the
> >>>>>>>>>> “author-mode” local version of the playbook, I’ll fix that when
> I
> >>>>>> commit
> >>>>>>>>>> the asciidoc fixes.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Also BTW, svn2git creates a new git repo, which is where we are
> >>>> now.
> >>>>>>>>>> I’ve never done it but think that by adding it as a remote to
> the
> >>>> main
> >>>>>>>> git
> >>>>>>>>>> repo I’ll be able to merge in the site as a merge from a branch.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I suppose a first draft of the nav file could mirror the
> >>> directly
> >>>>>>>>>> structure…. right now it’s just an alphabetical list of all
> >>> pages.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So is the plan to add all sources (git repos) and do the
> >>> theme? (I
> >>>>>>>>>> would be
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Le ven. 7 août 2020 à 20:25, David Jencks <
> >>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve done 1-3, and 4 enough to build a site with all adoc
> >>> pages
> >>>>>>>> listed
> >>>>>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the nav.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Site is previewed at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html
> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://aries-preview.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/index.html
> >.
> >>>>>> Note
> >>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> this is not a web server, and some things that work on a web
> >>>> server
> >>>>>>>>>> give
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> you an error. I don’t know of any with this particular
> >>> preview,
> >>>> but
> >>>>>>>>>> don’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> assume something will necessarily be broken if it doesn’t
> work
> >>>>>> here.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Git repos from which this is built:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> content:  aries-antora-site <
> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora-site>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Antora playbook:  aries-antora <
> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To build it yourself, install node and npm.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Clone the aries-antora <
> >>> https://github.com/djencks/aries-antora>
> >>>>>>>>>> playbook
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Run npm run clean-build.  The site will be under build.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I left the mdtext files in place next to the adoc
> >>> translations so
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> be easy to check back when looking for errors.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 11:25 PM, David Jencks <
> >>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked at this briefly…
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i think the following steps will lead us to a nice Antora
> >>> site:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. convert the svn to a git repo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. translate the .markdown files to asciidoc in place with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> kramdown-asciidoc asciidoctor/kramdown-asciidoc: A kramdown
> >>> ... -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHubgithub.com › asciidoctor › kramdown-asciidoc <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi6mdCO9oXrAhWwJDQIHYAeCt0QFjAAegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fasciidoctor%2Fkramdown-asciidoc&usg=AOvVaw2sOAmH3_x0kdG3iuFoZ7OX
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (there will be plenty of errors to fix….)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Move the content to an Antora structure with some minimal
> >>>>>> amount
> >>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (re)organization.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Set up Antora navigation, build, and UI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Fix the asciidoc errors.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Consider what further reorganization is appropriate, such
> >>> as
> >>>>>>>> moving
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the docs for (sub)projects to those subprojects.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Figure out how to use the Apache publish-to-git system
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8. Refine the UI.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it will be simplest if I just do steps 1-4.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> There seems to already be a git aries-site repo that looks
> >>>>>>>> abandoned.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can I move the current content to a different branch and use
> >>> that
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>> (1)?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Comments? Objections?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 5, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>> .INVALID
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:raymond.a...@liferay.com.INVALID>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/ <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/aries/site/trunk/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 2:36 PM David Jencks <
> >>>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I looked around a little bit and couldn’t find the source
> >>> for
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> website.  Is it hidden somewhere in Apache CMS svn?  Does
> >>>> anyone
> >>>>>>>>>> know
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> where?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> david jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buildbot uses bash so just ensure node is there - a bit
> >>> like
> >>>>>>>> travis
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> does
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and if not download it and that's it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively frontend plugin works well as mzntionned by
> >>>>>> David:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://github.com/Talend/component-runtime/blob/master/documentation/pom.xml#L567
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 4 août 2020 à 21:27, David Jencks <
> >>>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In typical apache fashion, there doesn’t appear to be
> any
> >>>>>> actual
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information about how to use buildbot or what it can
> do.
> >>>>>>>> However,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buildbot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claims to be a general purpose tool.  It’s possible to
> >>> run
> >>>>>>>> Antora
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maven, so if we can’t figure out any more direct
> >>> approach we
> >>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>> do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Building on GitHub using GitHub actions might be another
> >>>>>> option:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that’s
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely possible.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 12:00 PM, Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .INVALID>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It looks like antora requires node.js to build? Can
> >>> such a
> >>>>>>>> thing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASF buildbot jobs?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:46 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, also enables to trivially generate doc
> >>> parts/partials
> >>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> super
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important for all the configuration IMHO.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |
> Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau> |
> >>> Book
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 4 août 2020 à 18:36, Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .invalid>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would make a case to integrate the site content
> into
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>> same
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repository
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that contains the code.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? This makes it much more apt to being kept up to
> >>> date
> >>>>>>>> since
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be made to both sources, docs and site content in a
> >>>> single
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> changeset.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:31 PM Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For reference here is the INFRA ticket [1] for this
> >>>>>>>> migration
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> task.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20633
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:19 PM Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David, That would be great!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let's see where consensus takes us.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far we have antora as a candidate. Does anyone
> >>> else
> >>>>>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strong
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desire to take some other solution?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 12:09 PM David Jencks <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> david.a.jen...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Camel website is mostly built with Antora (I
> >>> don’t
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> understand
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reluctance to use it for everything).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/ <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://camel.apache.org/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might be able to help with a migration to
> Antora.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> David Jencks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2020, at 8:45 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.antora.org/antora/2.3/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Long story short you write the doc in asciidoctor
> >>>>>> (which
> >>>>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bulk import html in the transition period or
> >>> markdown
> >>>>>>>> since
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asciidoctor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supports most of markdown), then you create a
> >>>>>> descriptor
> >>>>>>>>>> file
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> source repos you want, then it will render all
> the
> >>>>>> sites
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> properly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All that generates a static website you just
> >>> upload
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> svnpubsub
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (or
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> git
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flavor) or any solution you want.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The product website uses that and I used it for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://talend.github.io/component-runtime/
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://talend.github.io/component-runtime/main/1.1.24/index.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau> |
> >>>> Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
> >>> |
> >>>>>>>> Book
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 4 août 2020 à 17:42, Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .invalid>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:39 AM Romain
> >>> Manni-Bucau <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ray,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you have a look to antora?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is exactly designed for this kind of thing
> >>> and
> >>>>>> works
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> quite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not. Link? :)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (it is not on the Apache wiki page referenced,
> >>> so if
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>> makes
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> story and integrates well into the Apache infra
> >>>> maybe
> >>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there as well)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>
> >>> |
> >>>>>> Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://rmannibucau.metawerx.net/> | Old Blog
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com> | Github <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/rmannibucau> |
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn <
> >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau>
> >>>> |
> >>>>>>>>>> Book
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/java-ee-8-high-performance
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le mar. 4 août 2020 à 17:30, Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .invalid>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ugh... forgot to CC you andrew. Please read
> >>> back.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 11:29 AM Raymond Auge <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Andrew,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aries is structured as several repos where
> the
> >>>> main
> >>>>>>>>>> repo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sub-projects, but several other sub-projects
> >>> are
> >>>>>>>> broken
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> own
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repos. All repos are git.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What options do you recommend for this
> >>> scenario?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be great if the main repo could hold
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>> core
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> site
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separate repos contribute their content
> >>> somehow.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any ideas how we could do that (sequenced
> >>> build
> >>>>>>>>>> triggers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scheduled
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs is what I'm thinking)?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:42 AM Raymond Auge
> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 10:40 AM Raymond Auge
> >>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raymond.a...@liferay.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Andrew,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The site is indeed still using the old CMS
> >>> and
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transition it. I can try to do this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll look through the info you've sent but
> >>> if
> >>>>>>>>>> there's a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or checklist that helps migrate to any
> >>>> particular
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> solution
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helpful.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 9:33 AM Andrew
> >>> Wetmore <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> andr...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infra is assembling a Wiki page [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on migrating a website from the CMS, and
> is
> >>>>>>>> looking
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forward
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> helping
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects with this transition.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .. Wiki, got it! I will start with that. I
> >>> may
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>> many
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you along the way. ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Ray
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know whether your site is
> >>> still
> >>>> on
> >>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CMS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who will be the project point-of-contact
> >>> with
> >>>>>>>> Infra
> >>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>> https://infra.apache.org/project-site.html
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Migrate+your+project+website+from+the+Apache+CMS
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew Wetmore
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technical Writer-Editor
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infra
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Apache Software Foundation*
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> andr...@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Virus-free.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.avast.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* <
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* <
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* <
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* <
> >>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.liferay.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raymond Augé* <
> >>>> http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@rotty3000)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <
> >>>>>> http://www.liferay.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (@Liferay)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> *Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
> >> (@rotty3000)
> >> Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com>
> >> (@Liferay)
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Raymond Augé* <http://www.liferay.com/web/raymond.auge/profile>
> > (@rotty3000)
> > Senior Software Architect *Liferay, Inc.* <http://www.liferay.com>
> > (@Liferay)
>
>
>

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