+1 for Gerrit from me too -- we're using it on Kudu and everyone on the
team likes it.

Happy to help admin the server on the gerrit.cloudera.org box which hosts
Kudu and Impala

-Todd

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Wes McKinney <w...@cloudera.com> wrote:

> In my experience, GitHub pull requests are only appropriate for patches
> that do not evolve significantly from the first iteration. Changes to
> patches frequently cause outstanding points of discussion to be obscured
> (the dreaded "comment on an outdated diff").
>
> Rebasing also frequently puts GitHub through a loop.
>
> Too often, as a result, it's tempting to rubber-stamp large patches on
> GitHub PRs vs reviewing with great care (which the tool penalizes you for,
> IMHO).
>
> Like Jacques my preference is to have a Gerrit instance available that we
> can opt in to (I would also like to use Gerrit for parquet-cpp), but not
> require a heavier process necessarily for small patches.
>
> On Friday, April 15, 2016, Zheng, Kai <kai.zh...@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not seeing either is good over the other, but did notice that many
> > good discussions in PR reviewing not seen here, though concrete comments
> > for some codes in place are very convenient comparing with JIRA based
> > reviewing. No one just looks to be perfect.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kai
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wes McKinney [mailto:w...@cloudera.com <javascript:;>]
> > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 1:38 AM
> > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <javascript:;>
> > Subject: Code review tools for Arrow patches
> >
> > hello all,
> >
> > We're reaching a junction where larger patches to the Arrow codebase will
> > become more frequent, and effective code reviews will be important part
> of
> > maintaining a high quality project going forward.
> >
> > In general, the GitHub pull request UI is not generally thought of as
> very
> > productive in large code reviews (some recent exposition on this
> > topic:
> >
> http://www.beepsend.com/2016/04/05/abandoning-gitflow-github-favour-gerrit/
> > ).
> > Many large engineering teams prefer such (git-centric) tools as Gerrit,
> > though there are other code review tools available.
> >
> > I don't think we are at a point where a particular code review process
> > should be enforced, but more that we should have more tools available for
> > groups of Arrow committers who wish to collaborate in a particular way.
> >
> > As I'm familiar with Gerrit from working on Apache projects that
> > Cloudera's involved with, my bias would be to try to get an instance set
> up
> > so that larger patches can be reviewed in a more detailed and
> transactional
> > way. For example: we could use gerrit.cloudera.org (like Kudu and
> > Impala), but I would be happy to use any infrastructure provider.
> >
> > There has been some resistance / inaction within the ASF to create an
> > ASF-managed Gerrit instance:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2205.
> >
> > I'm interested to hear other perspectives.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Wes
> >
>



-- 
Todd Lipcon
Software Engineer, Cloudera

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