Looks interesting. I see some commonalities. I hope the original work (in
progress?) will make references to Arrow so that we will all know the
distinguishing points better.

2016-11-20 8:31 GMT-08:00 Donald E. Foss <donald.f...@gmail.com>:

> Thanks Julian. Sounds worth a listen.
>
> Donald E. Foss (mobile-US ET)
>
> > On Nov 19, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Matei Zaharia just spoke at the AMPlab seminar [1], and showed a couple
> of slides about Weld. In the video of the day [2], his talk starts at
> 4:05:00, and he starts talking about Weld at 4:28:30.
> >
> > The essence is an intermediate language for row-level expressions, with
> the ability to do limited iteration, with the goal of making it easier to
> pass data between UDFs written in different languages. Sounds familiar? I
> would presume that an implementation of the language would be strongly tied
> to a memory format. Or maybe it allows multiple possible implementations,
> one of which would be Arrow in Java.
> >
> > The slide listed Pandas as one of the supported front ends, so I
> wondered if Wes knew something about the project.
> >
> > I have been thinking of doing something similar in the Calcite / Drill /
> Arrow world. In Calcite we have RexNodes as an expression language, and we
> have a Java code generator that can target data represented as Java arrays,
> and another variant that can target data represented as Java structs. Drill
> of course has a code generator that can target data in Arrow. I have been
> thinking for a while of abstracting the code generators so that the person
> implementing, say, the Filter+Project for “select x + y … where x > 5”
> doesn’t have to get their hands dirty with code generation. There are a lot
> of optimizations to be done, e.g. remembering that you’ve already made sure
> that x is not null.
> >
> > Julian
> >
> > [1] https://amplab.cs.berkeley.edu/endofproject/ <
> https://amplab.cs.berkeley.edu/endofproject/>
> >
> > [2] https://youtu.be/KAacs9jYPHU <https://youtu.be/KAacs9jYPHU>
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 19, 2016, at 4:31 AM, Donald Foss <donald.f...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Did you find that at https://cs.stanford.edu/~matei/? <
> https://cs.stanford.edu/~matei/?>  That’s the only thing I can find via
> Google about it.  Do you have more detail or a link to the paper itself?  I
> get the feeling that it is not yet fully complete despite 21 November
> camera-ready CIDR 2017 deadline.
> >>
> >> For those who aren’t familiar with CIDR, it is a conference that occurs
> every other year.  This year’s agenda/program may be found at
> http://cidrdb.org/cidr2017/program.html <http://cidrdb.org/cidr2017/
> program.html>.  CIDR is not an acronym for network subnet masks—the first
> thing I thought of, Classless Inter Domain Routing, but Conference on
> Innovative Data Systems Research, which focuses primarily on systems.  I
> hate to admit this, but I’m unfamiliar with the conference, however that
> appears that it is because I’ve been out of academia for far too long, and
> this conference seems to be the presentation of quite a few interesting
> papers.  Just judging by title, a poor, yet humorous judge indeed, I like:
> >> - “Dependency-Driven Analytics: A Compass for Uncharted Data Oceans”
> (Donald - Why just data lakes when you can have data oceans?)
> >> - “My Weak Consistency is Strong” (Donald - Great title, reminds me of
> Star Wars and the “Force”)
> >> - “SPOOF: Sum-Product Optimization and Operator Fusion for Large-Scale
> Machine Learning” (Donald - Another brilliant backronym.)
> >>
> >> The Weld paper is the last paper to be presented on 10 January 2017
> between 2:30 and 4:05 (UTC-8).
> >>
> >> On a side note, looking down that page a little, I love the title of
> the last paper in 2016, Yggdrasil: An Optimized System for Training Deep
> Decision Trees at Scale <https://cs.stanford.edu/~matei/papers/2016/nips_
> yggdrasil.pdf>.  When I see Yggdrasil, the first thing I think of is a
> really big tree and Norse mythology.  It’s a great name.  I’m going to read
> some of his other papers this weekend.
> >>
> >> Donald Foss
> >> donald.f...@gmail.com
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> >>> On Nov 18, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Anyone know anything about Matei Zaharia’s Weld project?
> >>>
> >>>    • S. Palkar, J. Thomas, A. Shanbhag, H. Pirk, M. Schwarzkopf, S.
> Amarasinghe and M. Zaharia. Weld: A Common Runtime for High Performance
> Data Analytics, to appear at CIDR 2017.
> >>>
> >>> It seems to have similar goals to Arrow.
> >>>
> >>> Julian
> >>>
> >>
> >
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