I have merged the patch but left the PR open for additional code review.
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 3:24 PM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > To be clear given the scope of code affected I think we should merge it today > and address further feedback in a follow up patch. I will be diligent about > responding to additional comments in the PR > > On Sat, May 23, 2020, 3:19 PM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yes you should still be able to comment. I will reopen the PR after it is >> merged >> >> On Sat, May 23, 2020, 2:52 PM Micah Kornfield <emkornfi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Wes, >>> Will we still be able to comment on the PR once it is closed? >>> >>> >>> If we want to be inclusive on feedback it might pay to wait until Tuesday >>> evening US time to merge since it is a long weekend here. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Micah >>> >>> On Saturday, May 23, 2020, Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi folks -- I've addressed a good deal of feedback and added a lot of >>>> comments and with Kou's help have got the build passing, It would be >>>> great if this could be merged soon to unblock follow up PRs >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:55 PM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I just opened the PR https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/7240 >>>> > >>>> > I'm sorry it's so big. I really think this is the best way. The only >>>> > further work I plan to do on it is to get the CI passing. >>>> > >>>> > On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 12:26 PM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> >>>> > wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > I'd guess I'm < 24 hours away from putting up my initial PR for this >>>> > > work. Since the work is large and (for all practical purposes) nearly >>>> > > impossible to separate into separately merge-ready PRs, I'll start a >>>> > > new e-mail thread describing what I've done in more detail and >>>> > > proposing a path for merging the PR (so as to unblock PRs into >>>> > > arrow/compute and avoid rebasing headaches) and addressing review >>>> > > feedback that will likely take several weeks to fully accumulate. >>>> > > >>>> > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 5:17 PM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> >>>> > > wrote: >>>> > > > >>>> > > > I'm working actively on this but perhaps as expected it has ballooned >>>> > > > into a very large project -- it's unclear at the moment whether I'll >>>> > > > be able to break the work into smaller patches that are easier to >>>> > > > digest. I'm working as fast as I can to have an initial >>>> > > > feature-preserving PR up, but the changes to the src/arrow/compute >>>> > > > directory are extensive, so I would please ask that we do not merge >>>> > > > non-essential patches into cpp/src/arrow/compute until I get the PR >>>> > > > up >>>> > > > (estimated later this week at present rate) so we can see where >>>> > > > things >>>> > > > stand. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 8:06 AM Wes McKinney <wesmck...@gmail.com> >>>> > > > wrote: >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:41 AM Micah Kornfield >>>> > > > > <emkornfi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Hi Wes, >>>> > > > > > I haven't had time to read the doc, but wanted to ask some >>>> > > > > > questions on >>>> > > > > > points raised on the thread. >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > * For efficiency, kernels used for array-expr evaluation should >>>> > > > > > write >>>> > > > > > > into preallocated memory as their default mode. This enables >>>> > > > > > > the >>>> > > > > > > interpreter to avoid temporary memory allocations and improve >>>> > > > > > > CPU >>>> > > > > > > cache utilization. Almost none of our kernels are implemented >>>> > > > > > > this way >>>> > > > > > > currently. >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Did something change, I was pretty sure I submitted a patch a >>>> > > > > > while ago for >>>> > > > > > boolean kernels, that separated out memory allocation from >>>> > > > > > computation. >>>> > > > > > Which should allow for writing to the same memory. Is this a >>>> > > > > > concern with >>>> > > > > > the public Function APIs for the Kernel APIs themselves, or a >>>> > > > > > lower level >>>> > > > > > implementation concern? >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Yes, you did in the internal implementation [1]. The concern is the >>>> > > > > public API and the general approach to implementing new kernels. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > I'm working on this right now (it's a large project so it will >>>> > > > > take me >>>> > > > > a little while to produce something to be reviewed) so bear with >>>> > > > > me =) >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > [1]: >>>> > > > > https://github.com/apache/arrow/commit/4910fbf4fda05b864daaba820db08291e4afdcb6#diff-561ea05d36150eb15842f452e3f07c76 >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > * Sorting is generally handled by different data processing >>>> > > > > > nodes from >>>> > > > > > > Projections, Aggregations / Hash Aggregations, Filters, and >>>> > > > > > > Joins. >>>> > > > > > > Projections and Filters use expressions, they do not sort. >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Would sorting the list-column elements per row be an array-expr? >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Yes, as that's an element-wise function. When I said sorting I was >>>> > > > > referring to ORDER BY. The functions we have that do sorting do so >>>> > > > > in >>>> > > > > the context of a single array [2]. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > A query engine must be able to sort a (potentially very large) >>>> > > > > stream >>>> > > > > of record batches. One approach is for the Sort operator to exhaust >>>> > > > > its child input, accumulating all of the record batches in memory >>>> > > > > (spilling to disk as needed) and then sorting and emitting record >>>> > > > > batches from the sorted records/tuples. See e.g. Impala's sorting >>>> > > > > code >>>> > > > > [3] [4] >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > [2]: >>>> > > > > https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/master/cpp/src/arrow/compute/kernels/sort_to_indices.h#L34 >>>> > > > > [3]: >>>> > > > > https://github.com/apache/impala/blob/master/be/src/runtime/sorter.h >>>> > > > > [4]: >>>> > > > > https://github.com/apache/impala/blob/master/be/src/exec/sort-node.h >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:35 AM Wes McKinney >>>> > > > > > <wesmck...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 7:32 AM Antoine Pitrou >>>> > > > > > > <anto...@python.org> wrote: >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Le 21/04/2020 à 13:53, Wes McKinney a écrit : >>>> > > > > > > > >> >>>> > > > > > > > >> That said, in the SortToIndices case, this wouldn't be a >>>> > > > > > > > >> problem, >>>> > > > > > > since >>>> > > > > > > > >> only the second pass writes to the output. >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > This kernel is not valid for normal array-exprs (see the >>>> > > > > > > > > spreadsheet I >>>> > > > > > > > > linked), such as what you can write in SQL >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > Kernels like SortToIndices are a different type of >>>> > > > > > > > > function (in other >>>> > > > > > > > > words, "not a SQL function") and so if we choose to allow >>>> > > > > > > > > such a >>>> > > > > > > > > "non-SQL-like" functions in the expression evaluator then >>>> > > > > > > > > different >>>> > > > > > > > > logic must be used. >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Hmm, I think that maybe I'm misunderstanding at which level >>>> > > > > > > > we're >>>> > > > > > > > talking here. SortToIndices() may not be a "SQL function", >>>> > > > > > > > but it looks >>>> > > > > > > > like an important basic block for a query engine (since, >>>> > > > > > > > after all, >>>> > > > > > > > sorting results is an often used feature in SQL and other >>>> > > > > > > > languages). >>>> > > > > > > > So it should be usable *inside* the expression engine, even >>>> > > > > > > > though it's >>>> > > > > > > > not part of the exposed vocabulary, no? >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > No, not as part of "expressions" as they are defined in the >>>> > > > > > > context of >>>> > > > > > > SQL engines. >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > Sorting is generally handled by different data processing >>>> > > > > > > nodes from >>>> > > > > > > Projections, Aggregations / Hash Aggregations, Filters, and >>>> > > > > > > Joins. >>>> > > > > > > Projections and Filters use expressions, they do not sort. >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Regards >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > Antoine. >>>> > > > > > >