If the worry is public distribution (i.e. requiring all downstream projects to 
also run flatc in their builds) we could perhaps ship a package that just 
consists of the generated code (though that's definitely more packaging burden, 
and won't help when you're doing development against in-progress or unreleased 
changes).

-David

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021, at 16:16, Phillip Cloud wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 4:05 PM Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Le 11/08/2021 à 22:02, Phillip Cloud a écrit :
> > > On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 3:58 PM Antoine Pitrou <anto...@python.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Le 11/08/2021 à 21:56, Phillip Cloud a écrit :
> > >>> I can see how that might be a bit circular. Let me start from the
> > >>> perspective of requirements. We want to be able to reuse the arrow's
> > >> types
> > >>> and schema, without having to write additional code to move back and
> > >> forth
> > >>> between compute IR and not-compute-IR. I think that leaves only
> > >> flatbuffers
> > >>> as an option.
> > >>
> > >> If that's the case then agreed (well, you can always embed as a raw
> > >> bytestring in other formats, but that wouldn't be pretty).
> > >>
> > >> I just wonder what the complexity of using Flatbuffers is for e.g.
> > Python.
> > >>
> > >
> > > IMO the complexity isn't high, but the generated code is definitely not
> > > idiomatic (
> > > https://google.github.io/flatbuffers/flatbuffers_guide_tutorial.html)
> >
> > Wow. And you also have to integrate `flatc` in your build chain?
> >
> 
> Yeah, that is a drawback here, though I don't see needing to run flatc as a
> major downside given the upside
> of not having to write additional code to move between formats.
> 
> Is there something particularly onerous about needing to run a codegen step
> in a build process
> (other than it being build-step number 1000 in a death by 1000 build-steps
> scenario)?
> 
> 
> >
> > IMHO that compares poorly to JSON or MsgPack, for example.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Antoine.
> >
> 

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