And to clarify: IIUC FlightSQL is necessary to wrap a Java implementation,
since it would be impractical to wrap Java code in the ADBC C interface.
But for a Rust / C++ implementation, one could just directly implement
ADBC. (Although a FlightSQL implementation would also be useful for
distributed engines.)

On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 5:00 AM David Li <lidav...@apache.org> wrote:

> It's possible we could wrap Iceberg et al. in Flight SQL to provide this,
> exposing Iceberg metadata via the Flight SQL endpoints, and table reads via
> Substrait plans. (Clients could send Substrait plans through ADBC, and we
> could integrate ADBC as a type of dataset.) I'm not familiar enough with
> Iceberg to know if having just the core libraries is enough, or if we need
> an attached query engine (like Spark) to support all of the features (like
> row-level updates/deletes).
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2022, at 11:25, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Le 03/10/2022 à 17:03, Will Jones a écrit :
> >> Hi Rusty,
> >>
> >> Note we discussed Iceberg a while ago [1]. I don't think we've discussed
> >> Hudi in any depth.
> >>
> >> As I see it, we are waiting on three things:
> >>
> >> 1. Someone willing to move forward the Iceberg / Hudi integration.
> >> 2. The Iceberg and Hudi projects need native libraries that we can use.
> The
> >> base implementations are all Java, which isn't practical to integrate
> with
> >> our C++ implementation (and the Python/R/Ruby bindings). But I think
> these
> >> formats are complex enough that it's best to develop the core
> >> implementation within the respective community, rather than within the
> >> Arrow repo. There was a discussion to start one a C++/Rust
> implementation
> >> for Iceberg [2], but I haven't seen any progress so far. I haven't been
> >> watching Hudi.
> >> 3. We need a model for extending Arrow C++ datasets in separate
> packages,
> >> or else we contribute to the package size problem you mentioned in your
> >> other thread [3].
> >
> > There may be other potential ways forward, such as integrate
> > Iceberg/Hudi using a Flight or ADBC endpoint.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Antoine.
>

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