That seems fine. Is there somewhere more canonical we should be putting the libraries? For instance I poked netty-tcnative and it puts the libraries under META-INF/native.
On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, at 17:52, James Duong wrote: > Another issue popped up while doing modules with native libraries. > > We currently put native libraries in the arch folder in the root of > each built JAR. JPMS is interpreting this as a package name (eg x86_64). > > This is breaking when a user tries to use multiple modules with native > libs (or in the case of dataset, have a module with a native lib depend > on another module with a native lib). JPMS sees the arch package in two > modules and treats this as a package collision. > > I’m thinking we prefix the arch directory with another directory > indicating which module the binary came from (eg arrow-c-data/x86_64). > This will probably require code changes, CMake changes, and test > changes. > > > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> > Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 11:45 AM > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> > Subject: Re: [DISC][Java]: Migrate Arrow Java to JPMS Java Platform > Module System > Agree with David on that. > > Regards > JB > > On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 8:17 PM David Li <lidav...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> I think we will just have to live with requiring different flags for >> different modules. If we can detect the lack of the flag at runtime somehow >> and present an appropriate error message (the way we do for the memory >> module) that would be best. >> >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, at 12:33, James Duong wrote: >> > For the work on modularization, I’ve merged the flight-grpc and >> > flight-core modules. I haven’t moved any other packages. >> > >> > I also encountered this problem with flight-core. Flight-core derives >> > from io.netty.buffer (specifically CompositeByteBuf), but we cannot use >> > Netty buffer with JPMS without requiring users to monkey-patch it with >> > patch-module. I have flight-core using Netty buffer on the classpath, >> > but deriving from CompositeByteBuf requires adding >> > --add-reads=org.apache.arrow.flight.core=ALL-UNNAMED to the command >> > line since Netty’s being treated as part of the unnamed module in this >> > context. >> > >> > This isn’t terribly onerous from the user’s perspective (especially >> > compared to monkey-patching), but we start getting into the business of >> > having different command-line arguments for different modules the user >> > might be using. >> > >> > We could tell users to always add >> > –add-reads=org.apache.arrow.flight.core=ALL-UNNAMED, but if they aren’t >> > using Flight, they’ll get a warning about an unrecognized module. Any >> > thoughts about the best way to present these command-line changes? >> > >> > >> > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net> >> > Date: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 6:58 AM >> > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> >> > Subject: Re: [DISC][Java]: Migrate Arrow Java to JPMS Java Platform >> > Module System >> > Hi, >> > >> > We have a "split packages" between flight-core and flight-grpc. I >> > don't think anyone is using only flight-core to create a new >> > "transport". >> > I think it's acceptable to combine flight-core and flight-grpc, and >> > maybe reshape a bit (imho some classes from flight-grpc should be >> > actually in flight-core). >> > Users can always reshade (even if it's painful). >> > >> > Regards >> > JB >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 8:52 PM David Li <lidav...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> I would be OK with combining flight-core and flight-grpc. It's not clear >> >> to me anyways that the current split would actually be helpful if we do >> >> ever want to support Flight without gRPC. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 12, 2023, at 14:21, James Duong wrote: >> >> > An update on this work. >> >> > >> >> > I’ve been able to update the following to JPMS modules now: >> >> > >> >> > * arrow-memory-core >> >> > * arrow-memory-unsafe >> >> > * arrow-format >> >> > * arrow-vector >> >> > * arrow-compression >> >> > * arrow-tools >> >> > * arrow-avro >> >> > * arrow-jdbc >> >> > * arrow-algorithm >> >> > >> >> > I don’t think the following should be modularized (but would appreciate >> >> > feedback as well): >> >> > >> >> > * arrow-performance (test-only module) >> >> > * flight-integration-tests (test-only module) >> >> > * flight-jdbc-core >> >> > * flight-jdbc-driver (Need to think about this. MySQL suggests they >> >> > want to modularize their JDBC driver: >> >> > https://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=97683 . How does this interact with >> >> > the ServiceLoader changes in JPMS as well). >> >> > >> >> > I’m starting the flight-related modules now. The first issue I’ve >> >> > noticed is that flight-core and flight-grpc reuse packages. I’d like to >> >> > combine flight-core and flight-grpc because of this (currently we only >> >> > have Flight using grpc in Java). >> >> > >> >> > After Flight I’d take a look at the modules that have native code: >> >> > >> >> > * arrow-c-data >> >> > * arrow-orc >> >> > * arrow-dataset >> >> > * arrow-gandiva >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > From: James Duong <james.du...@improving.com.INVALID> >> >> > Date: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 1:39 PM >> >> > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> >> >> > Subject: Re: [DISC][Java]: Migrate Arrow Java to JPMS Java Platform >> >> > Module System >> >> > I expect that we’d still have to change CLI arguments in JDK17. >> >> > >> >> > The need for changing the CLI arguments is due to memory-core now being >> >> > a named module while requiring access to Unsafe and using reflection >> >> > for accessing internals of java.nio.Buffer. >> >> > >> >> > We’re using JDK8 code for doing both currently. It might be worth >> >> > looking into if there’s a JDK9+ way of doing this without needing >> >> > reflection and compiling memory-core as a multi-release JAR. >> >> > >> >> > I don’t expect more CLI argument changes unless we use reflection on >> >> > NIO classes in other modules. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > From: Adam Lippai <a...@rigo.sk> >> >> > Date: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 9:28 AM >> >> > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> >> >> > Subject: Re: [DISC][Java]: Migrate Arrow Java to JPMS Java Platform >> >> > Module System >> >> > I believe Spark 4.0 was mentioned before. It’ll require Java 17 and >> >> > will be >> >> > released in a few months (June?). >> >> > >> >> > Best regards, >> >> > Adam Lippai >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 12:05 David Li <lidav...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks James for delving into this mess. >> >> >> >> >> >> It looks like this change is unavoidable if we want to modularize? I >> >> >> think >> >> >> this is OK. Will the CLI argument change as we continue modularizing, >> >> >> or is >> >> >> this the only change that will be needed? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 4, 2023, at 20:07, James Duong wrote: >> >> >> > Hello, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I did some work to separate the below PR into smaller PRs. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > * Updating the versions of dependencies and maven plugins is done >> >> >> > and merged into master. >> >> >> > * I separated out the work modularizing arrow-vector, >> >> >> > arrow-memory-core/unsafe, and arrow-memory-netty. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Modularizing arrow-memory-core requires a smaller change to user >> >> >> > command-line arguments. Instead of: >> >> >> > --add-opens=java.base/java.nio=ALL-UNNAMED >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The user needs to add: >> >> >> > --add-opens=java.base/java.nio=org.apache.arrow.memory.core,ALL-UNNAMED >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I initially tried to modularize arrow-vector separately from >> >> >> > arrow-memory-core but found that any meaningful operation in >> >> >> > arrow-vector would trigger an illegal access in memory-core if it >> >> >> > wasn’t modularized. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I was able to run the tests for arrow-compression and arrow-tools >> >> >> > successfully after modularizing memory-core, memory-unsafe-, and >> >> >> > arrow-vector. Note that I had more success by making memory-core and >> >> >> > memory-unsafe automatic modules. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I think we should make a decision here on if we want to bite the >> >> >> > bullet >> >> >> > and introduce a breaking user-facing change around command-line >> >> >> > options. The other option is to wait for JDK 21 to modularize. That’s >> >> >> > farther down the line and requires refactoring much of the memory >> >> >> > module code and implementing a module using the foreign memory >> >> >> > interface. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > From: James Duong <james.du...@improving.com.INVALID> >> >> >> > Date: Tuesday, November 28, 2023 at 6:48 PM >> >> >> > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [DISC][Java]: Migrate Arrow Java to JPMS Java Platform >> >> >> > Module System >> >> >> > Hi, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I’ve made some major progress on this work in this PR: >> >> >> > https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/38876 >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > * The maven plugin for compiling module-info.java files using >> >> >> > JDK 8 >> >> >> > is working correctly. >> >> >> > * arrow-format, arrow-memory-core, arrow-memory-netty, >> >> >> > arrow-memory-unsafe, and arrow-vector have been modularized >> >> >> > successfully. >> >> >> > * Tests pass locally for all of these modules. >> >> >> > * They fail in CI. This is likely from me not updating a >> >> >> > profile >> >> >> > somewhere. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Similar to David’s PR from below, arrow-memory and modules needed to >> >> >> > be >> >> >> > refactored fairly significantly and split into two modules: a >> >> >> > public-facing JPMS module and a separate module which adds to Netty’s >> >> >> > packages (memory-netty-buffer-patch). What’s more problematic is that >> >> >> > because we are using named modules now, users need to add more >> >> >> > arguments to their Java command line to use arrow. If one were to use >> >> >> > arrow-memory-netty they would need to add the following: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > --add-opens java.base/jdk.internal.misc=io.netty.common >> >> >> > >> >> >> --patch-module=io.netty.buffer=${project.basedir}/../memory-netty-buffer-patch/target/arrow-memory-netty-buffer-patch-${project.version}.jar >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> --add-opens=java.base/java.nio=org.apache.arrow.memory.core,io.netty.common,ALL-UNNAMED >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Depending on where the memory-netty-buffer-patch JAR is located, and >> >> >> > what version, the command the user needs to supply changes, so this >> >> >> > seems like it’d be really inconvenient. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Do we want to proceed with modularizing existing memory modules? Both >> >> >> > netty and unsafe? Or wait until the new memory module from Java 21 is >> >> >> > available? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The module-info.java files are written fairly naively. I haven’t >> >> >> > inspected thoroughly to determine what packages users will need. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > We can continue modularizing more components in a separate PR. >> >> >> > Ideally >> >> >> > all the user breakage (class movement, new command-line argument >> >> >> > requirements) happens within one major Arrow version. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > From: James Duong <james.du...@improving.com.INVALID> >> >> >> > Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 1:16 PM >> >> >> > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [DISC][Java]: Migrate Arrow Java to JPMS Java Platform >> >> >> > Module System >> >> >> > I’m following up on this topic. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > David has a PR from last year that’s done much of the heavy lifting >> >> >> > for >> >> >> > refactoring the codebase to be package-friendly. >> >> >> > https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/13072 >> >> >> > >> >> >> > What’s changed since and what’s left: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > * New components have been added (Flight SQL for example) that >> >> >> > will >> >> >> > need to be updated for modules. >> >> >> > * There wasn’t a clear solution on how to do this without >> >> >> > breaking >> >> >> > JDK 8 support. Compiling module-info.java files require using JDK9, >> >> >> > but >> >> >> > using JDK9 breaks using JDK8 methods of accessing sun.misc.Unsafe. >> >> >> > * There is a Gradle plugin that can compile module-info.java >> >> >> > files purely syntactically that we can adapt to maven. It has >> >> >> > limitations (the one I see is that it can’t iterate through >> >> >> > classloaders to handle annotations), but using this might be a good >> >> >> > stopgap until we JDK 8 support is deprecated. >> >> >> > * Some plugins need to be updated: >> >> >> > * maven-dependency-plugin 3.0.1 can’t parse module-info.class >> >> >> > files. >> >> >> > * checkstyle 3.1.0 can’t parse module-info.java files. Our >> >> >> > existing checkstyle rules file can’t be loaded with newer versions. >> >> >> > We >> >> >> > can exclude module-info.java for now and have a separate Issue for >> >> >> > updating checkstyle itself and the rules file. >> >> >> > * grpc-java could not be modularized when the PR above was >> >> >> > written. >> >> >> > * Grpc 1.57 now can be modularized >> >> >> > (grpc/grpc-java#3522<https://github.com/grpc/grpc-java/issues/3522>) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > From: David Dali Susanibar Arce <davi.sar...@gmail.com> >> >> >> > Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 5:02 AM >> >> >> > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> >> >> >> > Subject: [DISC][Java]: Migrate Arrow Java to JPMS Java Platform >> >> >> > Module >> >> >> System >> >> >> > Hi All, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > This email's purpose is a request for comments to migrate Arrow Java >> >> >> > to >> >> >> JPMS >> >> >> > Java Platform Module System < >> >> >> https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/><https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e><https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3e><https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3e%3e><https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3e%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3chttps:/openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/%3e%3e%3e%3e> >> >> >> > JSE 9+ (1). >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Current status: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - Arrow Java use JSE1.8 specification >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - Arrow Java works with JSE1.8/9/11/17 >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - This is possible because Java offers “legacy mode” >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Proposal: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Migrate to JPMS Java Platform Module System. 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JPMS offer Strong encapsulation, Well-defined interfaces >> >> >> > <https://github.com/nipafx/demo-jigsaw-reflection>, Explicit >> >> >> dependencies. >> >> >> > <https://nipafx.dev/java-modules-reflection-vs-encapsulation/> (3)(4) >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - JPMS offer reliable configuration and security to hide platform >> >> >> internals. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - JPMS offers a partial solution to solve problems about read (80%) >> >> >> /write >> >> >> > (20%) code. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - JPMS offer optimization for readability about read/write ratio >> >> >> > (90/10) >> >> >> > thru module-info.java. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - Consistency logs, JPMS implement consistency logs to really use >> >> >> > that to >> >> >> > solve the current problem. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - Be able to customize JRE needed with only modules needed (not >> >> >> > java.desktop for example and others) thru JLink. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - Modules have also been implemented by other languages such as >> >> >> Javascript >> >> >> > (ES2015), C++(C++20), Net (Nuget/NetCore).. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - Consider taking a look at this discussion about pros/cons >> >> >> > < >> >> >> https://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/okt3j3/do_you_use_jigsaw_modules_in_your_java_projects/ >> >> >> > >> >> >> > (5). >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - Eventual migration to JPMS is a practical necessity as more >> >> >> > projects >> >> >> > migrate. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Effort: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - First of all we need to decide to move from JSE1.8 to JSE9+ or be >> >> >> > able >> >> >> to >> >> >> > offer support for both jar components JSE1.8 and JSE9+ included. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - Go bottom up for JPMS. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - Packages need to be unique (i.e. org.apache.arrow.memory / >> >> >> > io.netty.buffer). Review Draft PR with initial proposal. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - Dependencies also need to be modularized. If some of our current >> >> >> > dependencies are not able to be used as a module this will be a >> >> >> > blocker >> >> >> for >> >> >> > our modules (we could patch that but this is an extra effort). >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Killers: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > - FIXME! I need your support to identify killer reasons to be able to >> >> >> push >> >> >> > this implementation. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Please let us know if Arrow Java to JPMS Java Platform Module System >> >> >> > is >> >> >> > needed and should be implemented. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Please use this file for any comments >> >> >> > >> >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qcJ8LPm33UICuGjRnsGBcm8dLI08MyiL8BO5JVzTutA/edit?usp=sharing >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Resources used: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > (1): https://openjdk.java.net/projects/jigsaw/spec/ >> >> >> > >> >> >> > (2): https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/13072 >> >> >> > >> >> >> > (3): https://nipafx.dev/java-modules-reflection-vs-encapsulation/ >> >> >> > >> >> >> > (4): https://github.com/nipafx/demo-jigsaw-reflection >> >> >> > >> >> >> > (5): >> >> >> > >> >> >> https://www.reddit.com/r/java/comments/okt3j3/do_you_use_jigsaw_modules_in_your_java_projects/ >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Best regards, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -- >> >> >> > David >> >> >>