Hi, I've finally been able to create the mathworks account, the PMC email account is moderated and I was not able to see the emails.
I've tried to upload the matlab-arrow-17.0.0.mltbx file from the 17.0.0 release [1] following the steps described by Kevin but I am getting an error message: > Upload cannot contain .dll. @Kevin, @Sarah, any idea? Thanks, Raúl [1] https://github.com/apache/arrow/releases/tag/apache-arrow-17.0.0 El mar, 6 ago 2024 a las 3:37, Sutou Kouhei (<k...@clear-code.com>) escribió: > > Hi, > > >> If you can share how to do this, I can do this. > > > > I'm not sure if I am interpreting this correctly, but if you are asking for > > instructions on how to set up a File Exchange entry - you should be able to > > navigate to [1] and then click the "Publish your code" button. From there, > > you should be able to sign in to your MathWorks account. After this, you > > can select the "Publish to File Exchange" button and select "My code is on > > my computer". After this, you can fill out the relevant entry form details > > as appropriate. > > Yes. I wanted to know it. Sorry for ambiguous wording. > Your explanation will help Raúl. > > Thanks, > -- > kou > > In > <mn2pr05mb6496a5873babefb0ec408ec4ae...@mn2pr05mb6496.namprd05.prod.outlook.com> > "Re: [DISCUSS][MATLAB] Creating a MathWorks File Exchange entry for the > MATLAB interface" on Mon, 5 Aug 2024 14:48:01 +0000, > Kevin Gurney <kgur...@mathworks.com.INVALID> wrote: > > > Thank you both for your inputs and willingness to help! > > > >> I have a MathWorks account: > >> https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/profile/authors/32046345 > >> > >> If you can share how to do this, I can do this. > > > > I'm not sure if I am interpreting this correctly, but if you are asking for > > instructions on how to set up a File Exchange entry - you should be able to > > navigate to [1] and then click the "Publish your code" button. From there, > > you should be able to sign in to your MathWorks account. After this, you > > can select the "Publish to File Exchange" button and select "My code is on > > my computer". After this, you can fill out the relevant entry form details > > as appropriate. > > > > If any of these steps are unclear, just let us know, and we can clarify > > further. > > > >> With regards to the mathworks account, given the lack of an org-level > >> account the PMC should probably create an 'official' one under > >> private@arrow.a.o? > > > > It sounds like we need to wait on a PMC member to do this before proceeding > > any further. However, let us know if we can help at all. > > > > [1] https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/ > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Kevin Gurney and Sarah Gilmore > > ________________________________ > > From: Jacob Wujciak <assignu...@apache.org> > > Sent: Friday, August 2, 2024 9:00 PM > > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][MATLAB] Creating a MathWorks File Exchange entry for > > the MATLAB interface > > > > Hi Kou, > > > > I don't think this is an issue as per: > > https://infra.apache.org/release-publishing.html<https://infra.apache.org/release-publishing.html> > >> An Apache release is a set of *valid*, *signed*, artifacts, *voted on* by > > the appropriate PMC and *distributed* on the official ASF release > > infrastructure. > > > > So what is uploaded to the Matlab Exchange is not an official release, just > > convenience binaries. > > I don't see a problem there and think it should be treated as uploading to > > the artifactory (which committers can do). > > > > With regards to the mathworks account, given the lack of an org-level > > account the PMC should probably create an 'official' one under > > private@arrow.a.o? > > > > Best > > Jacob > > > > Am Sa., 3. Aug. 2024 um 00:35 Uhr schrieb Sutou Kouhei > > <k...@clear-code.com>: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I can't find a related description of "committers can > >> upload the approved official releases to somewhere as the > >> official releases" in the release policy page: > >> https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html<https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html> > >> > >> I think that we need to ask the legal affairs committee > >> https://www.apache.org/legal/<https://www.apache.org/legal> about this > >> case to clarify > >> this case or a PMC member does this. > >> > >> I have a MathWorks account: > >> https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/profile/authors/32046345 > >> > >> If you can share how to do this, I can do this. > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> -- > >> kou > >> > >> In < > >> mn2pr05mb6496bd76061d61cb02d19551ae...@mn2pr05mb6496.namprd05.prod.outlook.com > >> > > >> "Re: [DISCUSS][MATLAB] Creating a MathWorks File Exchange entry for the > >> MATLAB interface" on Fri, 2 Aug 2024 18:30:11 +0000, > >> Kevin Gurney <kgur...@mathworks.com.INVALID> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi All, > >> > > >> > Just following up quickly on this thread. > >> > > >> > If at all possible, we would greatly appreciate a PMC member's input on > >> possible next steps for creating a MathWorks account / File Exchange entry > >> for the MLTBX files. > >> > > >> > Please let us know if there is anything we can do to help. > >> > > >> > Thank you! > >> > > >> > Best Regards, > >> > > >> > Kevin Gurney and Sarah Gilmore > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: Kevin Gurney <kgur...@mathworks.com.INVALID> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 2:55 PM > >> > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> > >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][MATLAB] Creating a MathWorks File Exchange entry > >> for the MATLAB interface > >> > > >> > Hi Jacob, > >> > > >> > Thanks for the quick response! > >> > > >> >> I think a manual upload is reasonable > >> > for now, we have a number of post-release tasks that have to be done > >> > manually already. > >> > > >> > Perfect! This sounds great. > >> > > >> >> Usually the release manager will send out a list with the open tasks > >> after > >> > the release so the community can help. > >> > > >> > Thanks for clarifying how this works. In that case, Sarah and I will be > >> happy to help out whenever these open task lists are shared. > >> > > >> >> Regarding the exchange account: How does authentication work? Is there a > >> > single login or can you add multiple maintainers (as for pypi)? > >> > > >> > MathWorks accounts are affiliated with a single email address and > >> password with optional two-factor authentication. > >> > > >> > As far as we are aware, there is currently no way to add multiple > >> maintainers to a single account or a specific File Exchange entry. Since we > >> are not experts in this area, we will confirm with our colleagues regarding > >> these details and reply here if we find out our current understanding is > >> incorrect. > >> > > >> >> As you are both committers it would make sense to give you access as > >> well > >> > so you can help with uploads etc.. > >> > > >> > This would be great and would definitely help us support the community > >> with maintenance efforts moving forward. > >> > > >> >> Other than that I don't think it really matters if a PMC creates the > >> > account but it would be good if a PMC could confirm that. > >> > > >> > In that case, we will wait to hear back from a PMC member on this before > >> trying to create any account. We imagine the email address affiliated with > >> the MathWorks account should be ASF-affiliated anyway, so we probably need > >> to wait for a PMC member for further guidance. > >> > > >> >> As the MLTBX files were built for 17.0.0 I don't see a problem with > >> adding > >> > them now (as long as there are no changes that are not part of 17.0.0). > >> > > >> > Excellent! This would be great. There shouldn't be any additional > >> changes included that aren't part of 17.0.0. We would just use the exact > >> MLTBX file that is currently available via GitHub Releases. > >> > > >> > Best, > >> > > >> > Kevin Gurney and Sarah Gilmore > >> > ________________________________ > >> > From: Jacob Wujciak-Jens <ja...@wujciak.de> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2024 2:26 PM > >> > To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> > >> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][MATLAB] Creating a MathWorks File Exchange entry > >> for the MATLAB interface > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > Thanks for the thorough follow up! I think a manual upload is reasonable > >> > for now, we have a number of post-release tasks that have to be done > >> > manually already. > >> > Usually the release manager will send out a list with the open tasks > >> after > >> > the release so the community can help. > >> > > >> > Regarding the exchange account: How does authentication work? Is there a > >> > single login or can you add multiple maintainers (as for pypi)? > >> > The PMC should have full admin access in some way, either by adding one > >> or > >> > more PMC members as maintainers or sharing the login. > >> > As you are both committers it would make sense to give you access as well > >> > so you can help with uploads etc.. > >> > Other than that I don't think it really matters if a PMC creates the > >> > account but it would be good if a PMC could confirm that. > >> > > >> > As the MLTBX files were built for 17.0.0 I don't see a problem with > >> adding > >> > them now (as long as there are no changes that are not part of 17.0.0). > >> > > >> > Best > >> > Jacob > >> > > >> > Am Di., 30. Juli 2024 um 20:05 Uhr schrieb Kevin Gurney > >> > <kgur...@mathworks.com.invalid>: > >> > > >> >> Hi All, > >> >> > >> >> Following up on this thread. > >> >> > >> >> First off - thanks for everyone's patience as we looked into this > >> further! > >> >> > >> >> We recently had a chance to speak with our colleagues at MathWorks who > >> >> manage the MathWorks File Exchange [1] service. Unfortunately, for the > >> time > >> >> being, we don't have a solution for linking the MLTBX files on GitHub > >> >> Releases with a MathWorks File Exchange entry without requiring write > >> >> permissions. That being said, our colleagues are aware of this > >> limitation > >> >> and there is a long-term goal to find an alternative solution. However, > >> we > >> >> don't want to block progress on making the MLTBX files easily accessible > >> >> until then. Therefore, as Kou suggested previously in this thread, we > >> think > >> >> the most reasonable path forward would be to manually upload the MLTBX > >> file > >> >> to MathWorks File Exchange. We acknowledge that this is less than ideal > >> and > >> >> does add a small, continuous overhead to every release. However, this > >> seems > >> >> like a reasonable tradeoff given the advantages for MATLAB users in > >> terms > >> >> of ease of installation and discoverability through the MATLAB Add-On > >> >> Explorer [2]. > >> >> > >> >> Barring any flags on this approach from the community, the next steps to > >> >> make this possible would be: > >> >> > >> >> 1. Create an "Apache Arrow" MathWorks account and an associated "Apache > >> >> Arrow" File Exchange entry that is managed by the Arrow PMC. > >> >> 1.1 We aren't 100% sure who should create this account. Should this be a > >> >> PMC member? > >> >> > >> >> 2. Add a step to the release process documentation [3] to manually > >> upload > >> >> the MLTBX file to File Exchange and use the contents of matlab/README.md > >> >> [4] as the description. > >> >> 2.1 Sarah and I will follow up with a pull request to update the > >> >> documentation after the MathWorks account and File Exchange entry has > >> been > >> >> created. > >> >> 2.2. Our assumption is that the Release Manager would be the one to > >> upload > >> >> the MLTBX file. However, we are happy to help as much as possible here. > >> >> > >> >> Note: We realize that the 17.0.0 release has already been completed, so > >> we > >> >> aren't sure if it is reasonable to try to retroactively upload the > >> 17.0.0 > >> >> MLTBX file to File Exchange. We understand if the community would > >> prefer to > >> >> wait until the next release is cut. > >> >> > >> >> Please let us know if you have any thoughts. > >> >> > >> >> [1] https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange/ > >> >> [2] https://www.mathworks.com/products/matlab/add-on-explorer.html > >> >> [3] > >> >> https://arrow.apache.org/docs/developers/release.html<https://arrow.apache.org/docs/developers/release.html>< > >> https://arrow.apache.org/docs/developers/release.html<https://arrow.apache.org/docs/developers/release.html>>< > >> https://arrow.apache.org/docs/developers/release.html<https://arrow.apache.org/docs/developers/release.html>< > >> https://arrow.apache.org/docs/developers/release.html<https://arrow.apache.org/docs/developers/release.html>>> > >> >> [4] > >> >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/main/matlab/README.md<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/main/matlab/README.md>< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/main/matlab/README.md<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/main/matlab/README.md>>< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/main/matlab/README.md<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/main/matlab/README.md>< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/main/matlab/README.md<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/main/matlab/README.md>>> > >> >> > >> >> Best Regards, > >> >> > >> >> Kevin Gurney and Sarah Gilmore > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> From: Kevin Gurney <kgur...@mathworks.com> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2024 12:01 PM > >> >> To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> > >> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][MATLAB] Creating a MathWorks File Exchange entry > >> >> for the MATLAB interface > >> >> > >> >> Hi Kou and Jacob, > >> >> > >> >> Thanks very much for your help with this! > >> >> > >> >> > Ah, this may need to be done by INFRA. If we create an account for > >> >> Apache Arrow, we can do it by ourselves. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks for clarifying this. An "Apache Arrow" account makes sense, as > >> well. > >> >> > >> >> We weren't sure what the community thought about making a more general > >> >> "Apache Software Foundation" account vs. a more specific "Apache Arrow" > >> >> account. The main reason we considered the idea of creating a broader > >> >> "Apache Software Foundation" account was because we were thinking that > >> it > >> >> might be reusable in the future for other theoretical File Exchange > >> entries > >> >> related to Apache projects other than Arrow. However, if managing an > >> >> "Apache Software Foundation" account would rely on constant support from > >> >> INFRA, then this is probably not a very sustainable solution. > >> >> > >> >> > INFRA may reject this request. If INFRA rejects this request, can we > >> use > >> >> manual upload approach? > >> >> > > >> >> > >> https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/content/fx/about.html?#Submitting_Files > >> >> > >> >> Our hope was to avoid requiring manual steps to keep the GitHub Releases > >> >> area and File Exchange in sync. However, if INFRA rejects our request, > >> then > >> >> the manual upload approach is certainly a good stop-gap solution we > >> could > >> >> pursue until we can hopefully find an automated solution that INFRA > >> finds > >> >> agreeable. > >> >> > >> >> > INFRA will never allow any third party apps that require write access > >> to > >> >> code > >> >> > >> >> Ah, thanks very much for pointing this out! INFRA not allowing write > >> >> access to code makes a lot of sense. We will reach out to the relevant > >> team > >> >> internally to see if we can find a solution that doesn't involve > >> providing > >> >> write access. Sorry for this complication. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> > >> >> If we can't find a short-term solution to the GitHub App write > >> permission > >> >> issue, then pursuing the manual upload approach that Kou pointed out > >> likely > >> >> makes the most sense. We could always move over to an automated approach > >> >> later on if a solution that meets INFRA's requirements becomes > >> available. > >> >> > >> >> Thanks everyone for your continued support on this. > >> >> > >> >> Best Regards, > >> >> > >> >> Kevin Gurney and Sarah Gilmore > >> >> > >> >> ________________________________ > >> >> From: Jacob Wujciak <assignu...@apache.org> > >> >> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2024 9:40 PM > >> >> To: dev@arrow.apache.org <dev@arrow.apache.org> > >> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][MATLAB] Creating a MathWorks File Exchange entry > >> >> for the MATLAB interface > >> >> > >> >> Hey Kevin, > >> >> > >> >> I just took a brief look at the Exchange integration app and it requires > >> >> the following permissions: > >> >> > Read and write access to code and pull requests > >> >> > Read access to administration and metadata > >> >> > >> >> INFRA will never allow any third party apps that require write access to > >> >> code (not sure about PRs as you can't actually merge a PR with that > >> >> permission). > >> >> Again I haven't taken a deeper look on how it works but I don't really > >> see > >> >> the need for the write access for linking releases (likely triggering a > >> >> sync when a release is added via webhooks?). > >> >> Maybe you can reach out internally to the team managing the integration? > >> >> > >> >> Best > >> >> Jacob > >> >> - > >> >> > >> >> Am Mo., 1. Juli 2024 um 20:42 Uhr schrieb Kevin Gurney > >> >> <kgur...@mathworks.com.invalid>: > >> >> > >> >> > Hi All, > >> >> > > >> >> > Now that the changes required to integrate GitHub Releases with the > >> Arrow > >> >> > release infrastrructure have been merged [1], we would like to make > >> the > >> >> > process of finding and installing the MATLAB bindings as easy as > >> possible > >> >> > by integrating with the MathWorks File Exchange [2]. We previously > >> >> proposed > >> >> > the idea of integrating with File Exchange in [3]. As a quick > >> refresher - > >> >> > File Exchange is analogous to other web-based package hosting > >> solutions, > >> >> > such as pypi.org or rubygems.org. > >> >> > > >> >> > By integrating with the File Exchange, MATLAB users will be able to > >> >> easily > >> >> > discover and install the latest stable version of the MATLAB interface > >> >> via > >> >> > Github Releases from within the MATLAB UI. Packages are installed from > >> >> the > >> >> > MathWorks File Exchange using the MATLAB Add-On Explorer [4]. > >> >> > > >> >> > In order to integrate with the MathWorks File Exchange, a member of > >> the > >> >> > Apache Arrow community (most likely, a PMC member) would need to: > >> >> > > >> >> > 1. Create a "The Apache Software Foundation" [5] MathWorks account > >> >> > 2. Create a File Exchange entry for the MATLAB Interface to Apache > >> Arrow > >> >> > 3. Install the required GitHub App to link the File Exchange entry > >> with > >> >> > the Apache Arrow GitHub Releases area [6] > >> >> > > >> >> > From previous discussions, our understanding is that installing a > >> GitHub > >> >> > App will require ASF Infra involvement. If this is true, then Sarah > >> and I > >> >> > will be happy to take the lead on creating a Jira ticket for this. > >> >> > > >> >> > We would greatly appreciate it if someone from the community could > >> assist > >> >> > us in determining next steps to make this happen. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thank you! > >> >> > > >> >> > Best Regards, > >> >> > > >> >> > Kevin Gurney and Sarah Gilmore > >> >> > > >> >> > [1] > >> >> > https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131<https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131>< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131<https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131>>< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131<https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131>< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131<https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131>>>< > >> >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131<https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131>< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131<https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131>>< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131<https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131>< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131<https://github.com/apache/arrow/pull/41131>>>> > >> >> > [2] https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/fileexchange > >> >> > [3] > >> >> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6<https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6>< > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6<https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6>>< > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6<https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6>< > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6<https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6>>>< > >> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6<https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6>< > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6<https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6>>< > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6<https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6>< > >> https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6<https://lists.apache.org/thread/0xyow40h7b1bptsppb0rxd4g9r1xpmh6>>>> > >> >> > [4] https://www.mathworks.com/products/matlab/add-on-explorer.html > >> >> > [5] > >> >> > > >> >> > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44> > >> < > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44> > >> >< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44> > >> < > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44> > >> >> > >> >> < > >> >> > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44> > >> < > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44> > >> >< > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44> > >> < > >> https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44<https://github.com/apache/arrow/blob/edfa343eeca008513f0300924380e1b187cc976b/matlab/tools/packageMatlabInterface.m#L44> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > [6] > >> >> > > >> https://www.mathworks.com/matlabcentral/content/fx/about.html#Why_GitHub > >> >> > > >> >> > >>
