> What kind of heresy is this? Why would you omit the four elephants?
How could the universe rest on a convex turtle shell without them?

it's TURTLES ALL THE WAY DOWN!

Are you too turtley for the turtle club?

+1 (binding)

On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 4:37 PM Raúl Cumplido <rau...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> +1 (binding)
>
> Tested on Ubuntu 26.04.
>
>
> El mar, 1 abr 2025, 21:58, Simon Perkins <simon.perk...@gmail.com> escribió:
>
> > I would suggest addressing non-elephantine geometries in a separate
> > extension type.
> >
> > On Tue, 01 Apr 2025, 21:51 Jacob Wujciak, <assignu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > > It is a well known fact that the world turtle itself rests upon the
> > back
> > > of another turtle,
> > >
> > > What kind of heresy is this? Why would you omit the four elephants?
> > > How could the universe rest on a convex turtle shell without them?
> > >
> > > Until this glaring fault is addressed I am -0
> > >
> > > Am Di., 1. Apr. 2025 um 21:35 Uhr schrieb Curt Hagenlocher
> > > <c...@hagenlocher.org>:
> > > >
> > > > You bet your sweet ass I am.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 11:58 AM Simon Perkins <simon.perk...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I concur. +1
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 8:52 PM Weston Pace <weston.p...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I've written a draft at [1] but for simplicity's sake I will
> > include
> > > the
> > > > > > text of the proposal inline below.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]
> > > https://github.com/westonpace/arrow/tree/feat/turtle-extension-type
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TURTLE
> > > > > > ======
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Extension name: ``arrow.turtle``.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * The storage type of the extension is ``Struct`` where the struct
> > > array
> > > > > is
> > > > > >   composed of the following fields:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   * **label: String** = A label for this particular batch.
> > > > > >   * **value: Binary** = A record batch serialized using the Arrow
> > IPC
> > > > > > streaming
> > > > > >   format.  The bytes should contain valid Arrow IPC bytes which can
> > > be
> > > > > > deserialized
> > > > > >   as if it were an independent buffer or file.  The batch should
> > > conform
> > > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >   schema encoded in the ``schema`` parameter.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Extension type parameters:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   * **schema** = the schema of the record batches, serialized using
> > > the
> > > > > IPC
> > > > > >   streaming format and encoded into JSON with base64.  All records
> > > in the
> > > > > >   array must conform to this schema.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > * Description of the serialization:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   The metadata must be a valid JSON object with the ``schema``
> > field.
> > > > > The
> > > > > >   schema field should be a base64 encoded JSON string as described
> > > above.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rationale
> > > > > > ---------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tabular data is a common approach for recording measurements and
> > > > > > observations.
> > > > > > The columns represent different measurements and the rows represent
> > > > > > "events"
> > > > > > or "samples" that have been taken.  For example, a weather station
> > > may
> > > > > > record
> > > > > > the temperature, pressure, and wind speed every hour.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With the introduction of quantum computing, we now must consider
> > the
> > > case
> > > > > > where
> > > > > > each event is a superposition of multiple states and we need to
> > > record
> > > > > all
> > > > > > possible states.  As a simplification we can think of each element
> > > in the
> > > > > > array as a measurement made in a separate but parallel universe.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The ``Label`` field can be used to give a human-readable label to
> > the
> > > > > > various
> > > > > > universes or states being measured.  Alternatively, if there is no
> > > > > > meaningful
> > > > > > label, it can be an empty string.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Following this approach we arrive at a three dimensional tabular
> > > > > > structure.  However,
> > > > > > there is no reason that we must stop at three dimensions.  The
> > batch
> > > can
> > > > > > contain
> > > > > > additional turtle fields to encode an arbitrary number of
> > additional
> > > > > > dimensions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Etymology
> > > > > > ---------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The name ``Turtle`` comes from the scientific discovery of the
> > world
> > > > > turtle
> > > > > > upon
> > > > > > which our universe rests.  It is a well known fact that the world
> > > turtle
> > > > > > itself
> > > > > > rests upon the back of another turtle, which is supported by a
> > > series of
> > > > > > ever larger
> > > > > > turtles.  This real life recursive structure seemed like a good fit
> > > for
> > > > > > representing
> > > > > > the recursive nature of this extension type.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >

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