Hi,

Thanks for the pointer. I'm not familiar with how to submit APE. I guess it
is done through JIRA. I'll check it out and see how to do it.
Switching from Esri Library to JTS is on the plan but adding CRS support
has to be done either way. Also, none of those two libraries support CRS
directly and we will have to use a third library, probably GeoTools, to add
CRS support.

Thanks

On Tue, Oct 3, 2023 at 10:14 PM Mike Carey <dtab...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It might be helpful to turn this into an APE proposal that folks can
> read and comment on, with the next level of detail.  My take is that I'd
> recommend trying regular collections for these at first - see if that's
> fast enough?  It would be nice if so.  This doesn't really feel like
> something that belongs in the system catalogs, as those are special and
> handled quite differently.  Will the additional spatial functions be
> UDFs or built-ins?  If they were UDFs there is a mechanism (Ian can say
> more) for doing initialization of some cross-function (read-only) state
> - reference tables were a use case that was a motivator - maybe that
> would be a help.  (This could all be in a Java UDF library, perhaps?)
> @Ian Maxon?
>
> We should also think again about moving from the current ESRI-based Java
> library to one that's more widely used and supported, perhaps?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike
>
> On 10/3/23 11:03 AM, Ahmed Eldawy wrote:
> > Hi dev team,
> >
> > I am working with Riyafa on adding support for coordinate reference
> systems
> > (CRS) to AsterixDB geometries. This additional information describes how
> > data is projected from the physical space to geometry coordinates and is
> > essential for many data science and GIS analytics projects. The way we
> plan
> > to implement this is by having a central CRS dataset that we use. Each
> CRS
> > will be identified by an integer Spatial Reference Identifier (SRID) that
> > we will add to each geometry. This reduces the storage overhead and
> speeds
> > up the retrieval of a geometry CRS. My question is about the best way of
> > storing the CRS information in that central table. Here are our
> constraints
> > and requirements.
> >
> > 1. This information should be highly-available. It will be accessed
> > frequently by worker nodes during data processing.
> > 2. The CRS table should be consistent across all machines so that
> SRID->CRS
> > mapping is also consistent.
> > 3. We might need to update the table occasionally, e.g., while loading
> data
> > from an external source. This ensures that we parse the external CRS and
> > use it appropriately.
> > 4. The table is not expected to be super large. The standard CRS database
> > contains less than 32,000 records and we might extend it occasionally
> from
> > external sources.
> > 5. The CRS table is durable and will need to be loaded back upon system
> > restart.
> > 6. There is a serialized form for CRS, but it will be way more efficient
> if
> > we can keep the CRSes as Java objects to reduce the parsing overhead.
> >
> > Do you have any recommendations on the best way of storing such a table?
> Is
> > the catalog the right place to keep this information?
> >
> >
> > Ahmed Eldawy<http://www.cs.ucr.edu/~eldawy>
> > <https://star.cs.ucr.edu>
> > Tel: +1 (951) 827-5654
> >

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