Oh yeah, could be. I will check that.

> On Aug 5, 2015, at 00:03, Mike Carey <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Won't fixing the grammar to eliminate ? make that unnecessary?
> 
> 
> On 8/5/15 12:00 AM, Ildar Absalyamov wrote:
>> Since we are talking about open index case, we do already have a check that 
>> the indexed field(s) is\are not a part of the schema.
>> Additional check will restrict the user-provided type of the field(s) to 
>> non-nullable build-in type only.
>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 23:46, Mike Carey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmmm - I think I understand...  I think we need to remove the ? from the 
>>> create index syntax (it isn't something it makes any sense to allow users 
>>> to say) and then we should make sure at create time that the indexed field 
>>> or fields are NOT a part of the known schema of the target dataset.  Right?
>>> 
>>> On 8/4/15 11:25 PM, Ildar Absalyamov wrote:
>>>> OK, so I will include an index-creation time check to avoid the nullable 
>>>> types in this case then.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 22:35, Mike Carey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh - I missed the point on this - WIERD!  This seems like a "bug" - i.e., 
>>>>> I don't think ? should be part of the syntax either, i.e., I agree with 
>>>>> Ildar that this makes no sense - I'm not sure why it's there.  Let's get 
>>>>> rid of that and then we won't need this bit of metadata either.  (Though 
>>>>> we'll need the code changes to fix this.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/4/15 2:34 PM, Ildar Absalyamov wrote:
>>>>>> As Till mentioned in the comment the problem is that we might need
>>>>>> nullability information in two cases:
>>>>>> 1) When a field is declared nullable in the schema. In this case the
>>>>>> information is persisted into the "IsNullable" metadata field, introduced
>>>>>> in the patch
>>>>>> 2) When we are declaring an open index of a nullable type (which is a
>>>>>> useless thing to do in my opinion). In this case right now we persist 
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> the type name, thus a "?" marker is needed to deserialize the proper type
>>>>>> back.
>>>>>> The conclusion was to store nullability information in "IsNullable" field
>>>>>> in the second case as well, which as I hoped will allow to reuse some 
>>>>>> code
>>>>>> from schema serialization. However the format of the metadata record is
>>>>>> slightly different in the case of an index. I did not invest that much 
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> into the issue since the last week, was hoping to finish soon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My main concern is whether the second case is valid at all. When an open
>>>>>> index is declared on the field it does not matter if the type of the 
>>>>>> index
>>>>>> is nullable or not, since the field value could potentially be null by
>>>>>> definition.
>>>>>> However, as Till mentioned in our discussion, it might make a difference 
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> we distinguish between the case when field "foo" has a value "null" and 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> case when "foo" is completely missing from the record. Thoughts?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2015-08-04 14:07 GMT-07:00 Till Westmann <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’ve added a comment to the review about what I think is an open issue.
>>>>>>> It would be nice to get more eyes/opinions on this to see if this is an
>>>>>>> issue and should be addressed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Till
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2015, at 1:53 PM, Steven Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It still has my +1 (I reviewed the changes since patchset 3), but it's
>>>>>>>> waiting for a +2 from Till.
>>>>>>>> Steven
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Ian Maxon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> This change is the last feature on the checklist before release,
>>>>>>>>> AFAIK. Just wanted to start a thread so there's visibility into the
>>>>>>>>> status of it, as I think there's been things going on behind the
>>>>>>>>> scenes. I believe right now it is under review, and that Till has
>>>>>>>>> provided comments to Ildar. However I'm not sure what has been going
>>>>>>>>> on after that. Will this patch need another round of fixes and review,
>>>>>>>>> or are the comments  something that is addressable post-release
>>>>>>>>> without a breaking metadata change? If it does need more work, what is
>>>>>>>>> the time frame for that?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Ian
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Ildar
>>>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Ildar
>> 
> 

Best regards,
Ildar

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