On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 03:20, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Care to point out specifics?  I'll make sure that the respective PMCs
> follow up on them.

Theres oodles of license violations in avalon, cocoon and james (And possibly 
turbine if they keep the CVS history).

Cocoon used to distribute JIMI (BCL) and Suns version of resolver (ugly 
license - forget specifics) and you can probably find it in their attic in 
lib dir.

Avalon also has similar copies in the attic in jakarta-avalon/tools/lib and 
jakarta-avalon/tools/ext (or whatever they are now). 

James distributed mail/activation (and still does?)

Turbine (2?) used to distribute lots and lots and lots and lots of jars 
illegally so you could look in their lib directory and get the 
mail/activation/jdbc jars at minimum and probably also transaction jars?

The above are the blatent license violations but I can probably point to heaps 
more if we consider JUnit, IBM BSF, other IPL stuff which required licenses 
to accomodate artefacts.

Then there is the non-BSDL BSD licensed products that we dont credit properly 
- I would have to actually look at specifics but I suspect avalon has a bunch 
of violations. Many came from cocoon .. iirc there is something like 
java-stylze.jar and so on and so forth.

and so on and so forth. I got a list of violations my arm long - ie the same 
stuff I have been complaining about for years. If the above ever gets fixed 
then I will give you another list. If all those are fixed then I will give 
you a list of places where artefacts have invlid licenses attached to them.

And then there is always things like MX4J that are licensed fine but violate 
the JSR IP license and thus are illegal implementations (eventhough the 
author sits as an EG member and the spec lead has said that this is not 
intention of sun to limit development this way). I poked Jason a few times to 
get JMX on blessed list but I don't think I have poked Geir yet. (Though this 
may have been resolved - I don't know).

Of course this is all stuff I have said time and again...

-- 
Cheers,

Peter Donald
He strains to hear a whisper who refuses to hear a shout.


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