Hello Stephen! 1)
SM> Why is fortress-meta dependent on Fortress? I think they share the org.apache.avalon.fortress.MetaInfoEntry org.apache.avalon.fortress.util.dag.Vertex org.apache.avalon.fortress.util.dag.CyclicDependencyException org.apache.avalon.fortress.util.dag.DirectedAcyclicGraphVerifier classes, don't know how to separate... What makes it worse, I have just come back from vacations and haven't got well planted in the new build system in general and maven in particular.. SM> Can they be more cleanly seperated? SM> Can Fortress meta be migrated to the meta package? 2) SM> Meta info (details about a component type) should be very closely SM> aligned with the framework. SM> Tools to produce this meta-info should be totally container independent. SM> SM> Meta data (details about deployment of a component or set of components) SM> are much more closely aligned with a particular container. SM> SM> A common meta-info model that is container independent and addresses the SM> complete set of requirements across the three avalon containers is all SM> that is needed. Any tools that are container specific should remain with SM> the container that they are specific to. Thanx for updating me on the terminology and the ideas! :-) It has really been a long mail, but know I got to understand that the terms meta-info and meta-data are used differenlty. And indeed this has been a very clear description of which is which 3) A practical short-term solution about fortress meta data seems to be: "let the fortress meta data generation code remain "married" to fortress". But our original goal was to make a handful of excalibur subprojects to compile both with and without fortress (in the latter case using pre-generated meta-data). This may be achieved by use of fortress-meta.xml ant script currently located in sourceresolve. However I'm at a loss where to move it to make it accessible to * sourceresolve * event * monitor even when we have no fortress available. On the other hand probably it's better to leave these projects dependent on fortress for a while? It seems that it was some other trouble, not a circular inter-project dependency error that caused the failures, wasn't it? Just some side-effect of migration to maven? -Anton --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]