On Sunday 02 November 2003 10:20, Stephen McConnell wrote:
> Just a short note to let you know that I printed out the four pages,
> went to cafe, ordered a bottle of wine, sat back, and read your 
> email in detail.

No WiFi in the cafe?? Here in Kuala Lumpur, we are getting to the point that 
just about every cafe in downtown area provides WiFi access.

> General comment - what your thinking is in scope and of interest.  

Encouraging.

> have a bunch of thoughts bubbling away - but way to early to do anything
> other than scare you, me, and a bunch of others.  

I'm not easily scared. When I was part of JSR-78, I loudly objected to the 
proposal put forward by the Sun lead, as being pre-mature and required more 
work. Sun "threatened" as much as they could and argued that there was no 
time, and that JSR-76 was directly dependent on JSR-78. The Expert Group 
finally voted in favour (majority vote), but the Executive Committee (thank 
God) sank the proposal.
It was an interesting experience, to say the least. I guess I'll never be 
invited again ;o)

> The killer question is the abstract an seperation of concerns relative 
> to the right abstracion - but I'm not going to go into this now because 
> my brain would probably though an IllegalStateException.

My one frequently throws OutOfMemoryError and NoSuchMethodException.

Cherio, cherio.... (saw Shanghai Knights yesterday)

Niclas

P.S. You are allowed to "trim" the emails a bit Steve...

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