Leo Sutic wrote: >>From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leo Simons >> >>that's just about exactly what I did, and it got me into a >>trademark debate. > > With whom?
The Avalon PMC.
I asked the PMC to grant permission for some specific endorsement/promotional usage according to the ASL, clause 4:
" 4. The names "Jakarta", "Avalon", "Excalibur", "Avalon Framework" and
"Apache Software Foundation" must not be used to endorse or promote
products derived from this software without prior written
permission. For written permission, please contact
[EMAIL PROTECTED]"with regard to my project. Since I did not receive such permission, I decided to use wording which I thought appropriate to indicate the relationship between my project and avalon.
While nothing "official" was ever decided on by the PMC, there were quite a few concerns voiced by members of the pmc, and some requests and suggestions made. Since I don't want anything else than a productive and healthy relationship between my project and the avalon community and its members, my project the avalon pmc, and between my project and the asf as a whole, I removed any material from the project documentation that might possibly be viewed as "endorsement" or "promotion". (As I'm not a lawyer or poet, I did not want to invest a lot of energy into finding out by trial and error what exact wording would be agreeable in this respect to the avalon PMC.)
But this is digressing a little from the actual topic of my RT, which is a lot more interesting (IMHO)......
Some of the comments that were made were about addressing what stuff is and what stuff is not compatible with other stuff (like a container with the avalon framework), and how to measure something like that. Which is in itself an interesting subject :D
My previous e-mail in this thread reflects some of my thoughts about that, especially about how to agree on what should be measured; it's not directly aimed at in any way achieving compatibility. It's random thoughts, no more, no less :D
-- cheers,
- Leo Simons
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