On Thursday 04 March 2004 03:29, Leo Simons wrote:
> Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Let's just recognize there's some rather fundamental differences of
> opinion here.
Yes we have;
1. The Duct Tape group.
2. The Foundation Engineers
3. Others.
4. Confused Users.
> I think model-driven architecture is a really big farce, a
> bad idea, a dumb term, and a pipe dream.
> I do not know how to achieve the complete formal model (as in
> model-driven) whilst still accomodating simplicity. Indeed, being able
> to quite easily
>
> public static void main( String[] args )
> {
> /* 10 lines of code to set up and use two components here, without
> importing anything else */
> }
>
> Dismissing this as an invalid usecase is just as dumb as calling
> model-driven architecture a big farce.
So we are EQUALLY DUMB :o)
I might be Dumb, but I ain't Stupid, you know...
> The vital point to realize, and the real challenge at the same time, is
> that the world would /really/ benefit from some reuse of components
> between these two approaches.
YES. But here is the difference,
If there is a strong contract enforced on the component, it is possible to
build both types of systems, i.e. the Atlantic Bridge vs The Plank Across the
Creek.
If there is not, only the plank will be possible.
> Niclas wrote:
> > I realize that ALL software developers SHOULD be
> > forced to work on designing the electronics for a year or so, just to
> > be enlightened on how simple things could be.
>
> I have two (relatively brilliant) electronics students here on my flat.
> They plainly suck as software architects. Might I suggest software
> developers study physics instead?
I never said to turn electronics engineers into software architects. But the
software community at large should be exposed to the really nice tools those
guys use.
Niclas
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