I haven't yet discovered a solution which seems perfect to me. Perhaps it is one of these but I need to give them more thought.

Also, merlin is a much better candidate as a TLP. Fortress could then stay in Avalon.

As Leif and Hammett have said, there is no compelling reason for Fortress/Phoenix users to change containers currently. These containers need to be maintained and allowed to evolve gradually. As also has been mentioned, there are different sets of developers ready to support each container. I do not view breaking up the containers into either TLPs or, alternatively, Avalon sub-projects as a bad things; that politically and administratively demarcates the interface/implementation split that architecturally Avalon already has.



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