On Tuesday 13 April 2004 12:12, Noel J. Bergman wrote:

> I think you need to elaborate, but all in all, I think your ideas seem
> reasonable.

I will as soon as I get anywhere forward... Stay tuned.

> > Here the problems of consensus would start big time. Some would be
> > in favour of sticking to a Java only solution, others to files in
> > JAR or entries in Manifest, and perhaps another group would like to
> > see an RDF solution.  Are they mutually exclusive? No, but the more
> > schemes the harder for everyone.
>
> I keep thinking that this is a representation issue, and multiple forms
> could be supported.  A container could detect which, if any,
> representations that it understands is present, and act accordingly.  If it
> did not find any, that would mean, in your words, that "the component
> doesn't work with that container."

Agree. Unfortunately, the more such 'representations' that one introduces, the 
harder it is for both the container and the component authors, to support 
'all'.

> However, with respect to consensus, it seems to me that although we
> sometimes get a reasonable and workable message like yours, from which
> people could try to build a consensus, we are increasingly seeing dug in
> positions of absolutes that leave no room.

I am trying to break out of the stalemate around here, and forget about what 
we disagree about and try to concentrate on what we DO agree on  - yes there 
are such things :o)


Cheers
Niclas
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