> -----Original Message----- > From: Niclas Hedhman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sorry, I can only find negatives with the 'LSD' approach, and I think > we should employ a different mechanism.
First off, it isn't just LSD's approach: http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#web Secondly, before anyone commits anything into /avalon/site or even /avalon/central/site, they should review the changes. It doesn't have to be on the web server before you can check. *NO* system is going to protect us from bad commits. > The build system uploads the 'new site' to > avalon.apache.org/[revnumber] so that the site can go live 'for a > while' first. This still requires the build system to have a way to upload to /www/avalon.apache.org/[revnumber]. Currently that means ssh access which means a unix account which is exactly what we're trying to avoid. Cons about the current approach: 1. We're storing the generated HTML in SVN. 2. There can be a discrepancy between the XML and HTML documents in SVN. 3. Site updates are done on a "dumb" schedule: normal cron, not triggered by some sort of change or release mechanism 4. Roll-backs and fixes not trivial or immediate Pros about the current approach: 1. Requires only one cron job and a relatively light weight update process (svn update is easy on the CPU) 2. Generation process agnostic: it doesn't matter if you use Maven, Forrest, Docbook, or straight HTML authoring. The current mechanism expects ready-to-go HTML not needs-to-be-processed XML. 3. Changes to XML source are not published until the generated HTML is copied over and committed (ie- release control) An ideal system would: 1. Generate the site from XML automatically 2. Allow for scheduled and on-demand releases 3. Allow for roll-backs 4. Allow for intelligent updates: ie- don't need to copy over everything for a small change; don't unnecessarily delete old content;... 5. Not require any unix shell access 6. Scale for all the ASF projects (and their various generation schemes) If you want to put together a test case for the /www/avalon.apache.org/[revision] system, go ahead and use your www.apache.org/~niclas site to test it out and we can see how well it works. J. Aaron Farr SONY ELECTRONICS STP SYSTEMS (724) 696-7653 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
