On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 12:48:12 -0400, Stefano Mazzocchi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if you like your bike red and I like my bike black, we 
> cannot have the same bike.

True.

The bane of reusability is usually that you have two different
scenarios that only differ in a minor detail - but that detail happens
to be spread throughout the source code.

But remember this:

 + We all use the same language (Java)
 + We run with the same standard libraries

So reusability *isn't* a myth. Its just that you can't reuse
everything. So Stefano, how much can be reused? What, in your opinion,
can be salvaged from Avalon? Do we just flush everything down the
drain? Or keep some things?

> at the end, the one with most social/political 
> pressure imposes its views.

That is my experience too.

> Avalon has failed.

Depends on definition of failure. In the objective "provide a unified
server framework", yes. But there are some useful code in Avalon (if I
could keep just one set of classes, I'd keep the o.a.a.f.configuration
package), and I think it has helped introduce IoC and all that for
many people (myself being one of them).

So we didn't reach architecture nirvana, but we got somewhere.

So when you say "move on, each one of us on their own path", it can't
mean "dump every piece of Avalon code in your system and just move
on", but something else.

What?

/LS

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