I'm all for it actually.  This way other container efforts can use our
components without having dependencies on AF.  This makes component
reuse more socially acceptable.

Alex

On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 01:26, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Saturday 07 August 2004 07:52, Paul Hammant wrote:
> > I'm trying to submit some patches for Cornerstone to allow it (or at
> > least ConnectionManager) to be used without Avalon.  Specifically, in a
> > Constructor Dependency Injection (CDI) manner.
> >
> > I'm having problems getting Maven 1.0 to compile it. Some custom Avalon
> > goal is missing (see below)
> >
> > Any ideas?
> 
> I hope you have managed to get Magic working by now. :o)
> Shouldn't be that hard.
> 
> 
> The main issue here revolves around the suggested changes, and I want to kick 
> off a discussion of whether this is 'desirable'.
> 
> Gang,
> Paul's changes can probably best be summarized as;
> 
> 1. Moving any 'functional' code into POJOs, and have an Avalon wrapper to 
> maintain Avalon compatibility.
> 
> 2. Introduction of the "No Logging Strategy" with a connection monitor, and 
> monitor adapters for Avalon and Commons-logging.
> 
> 
> We need to discuss if these are changes that are in line with the Avalon 
> direction and a way that should be supported, maintained and encouraged.
> 
> Personally, I have no strong opinion at this point in time, and would like the 
> folks to speak up. Preferably also the Excalibur camp...
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Niclas


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