Hi,

Shall we replace the old website with the new one ?

I will have time to work on it next week, so if we decide what to do then I
could do it all by myself with my new superpowers (committership!)

Martin

On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 1:51 PM Martin Grigorov <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 9:38 AM Martin Grigorov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ryan,
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2021 at 1:36 PM Ryan Skraba <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I realized that I haven't commented on this mailing list thread -- I
>>> made some comments on https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-2175
>>>
>>> This looks amazing and we should merge it very soon :D  It's not
>>> perfect, but it's really a great improvement and definitely not worst
>>> than the existing website!
>>>
>>> I've been taking a look at what we need to use the existing
>>> infrastructure, and there's interesting links at:
>>>
>>> - https://infra.apache.org/release-download-pages.html
>>> -
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INFRA/Git+-+.asf.yaml+features
>>> - https://infra.apache.org/website-guidelines.html
>>> - https://infra.apache.org/project-site.html
>>>
>>> I like that Beam has the website in the main repo, but notably the
>>> INFRA recommendation is that we use a separate repo for the website
>>> (named `avro-site` though).  Any thoughts?  It's always something we
>>> can try and change later!  Would it make it easier for the javadoc and
>>> other languages if they were in the same repo, or does it make little
>>> difference?
>>>
>>
>> Since some docs are generated by other tools (C/C++/C#) and they need to
>> be copied to the rest of the website I agree that it would be easier if the
>> website is in the main repo!
>> Also any changes to the spec/IDL will be in one PR (same repo) instead of
>> two (main+website).
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The old site actually contains all of the documentation for EVERY
>>> release, which can be found here:
>>>
>>> - https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/avro/site/publish/docs/
>>> - https://avro.apache.org/docs/
>>>
>>> Would it be tricky to adjust your work to mirror the existing
>>> structure for existing docs?  I'm not even too fussy about not
>>> breaking the links in /docs/current/ but all of the existing pages
>>> such as /docs/1.7.7/ should be maintained if possible!
>>>
>>
>> I could make the "Documention" nav tab into a dropdown with menu items,
>> one for each version.
>> 1.11.0 and 1.10.2, and any future release, will be proper Markdown
>> documents. The menu items for all previous versions will be links to the
>> respective folder at https://avro.apache.org/docs/.
>>
>
> Done!
> https://avro-website.netlify.app/
>
>
>> If someone wants to migrate some more old docs to Markdown then please
>> fork the repo and send a PR!
>>
>>
>>>
>>> There's so many good suggestions here for future work and improving
>>> our message and communication, I created
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-3264 to point to this
>>> discussion after we get this up.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for your great work!
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 4:26 PM Lee Hambley <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I speak only for myself, but I am working in an environment where I am
>>> regularly checking docs all the way back to 1.8.x because we have legacy
>>> systems we cannot upgrade, and I am often referencing rules about schema
>>> canonical form. I value a lot the sidebar bottom version switching
>>> navigation from sites such as here
>>> https://fastavro.readthedocs.io/en/latest/writer.html#using-the-record-hint-to-specify-which-branch-of-a-union-to-take
>>> ... but I know it can be extraordinarily difficult to make it work
>>> correctly with these static site generators.
>>> >
>>> > Lee Hambley
>>> > http://lee.hambley.name/
>>> > +49 (0) 170 298 5667
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 at 16:23, Martin Grigorov <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 5:04 PM Ismaël Mejía <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Wow this is pretty neat ! Nice job Martin! A modern website can
>>> >>> encourage more contributions.
>>> >>> I am more interested on content than aesthetics first. Is everything
>>> >>> already migrated? Anything missing? Any issue to report?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Everything is migrated for the documentation of the *current* version.
>>> >> The old site contains documentation for both current and current-1.
>>> Is this something you would like to preserve ?
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 7:01 PM Martin Grigorov <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Hi,
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Anyone willing to send a PR with the suggested improvement?
>>> >>> > Or at least open an issue with the well formulated text and I will
>>> add it!
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Regards,
>>> >>> > Martin
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 18:08 Oscar Westra van Holthe - Kind <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Hi,
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> This is a huge improvement. Responsive, excellent navigation,
>>> syntax
>>> >>> >> highlighting, ...
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> The only downside I see was already mentioned by Lee: the landing
>>> page is
>>> >>> >> too empty (also in a mobile browser).
>>> >>> >> I think we could really benefit from mentioning the unique
>>> selling point of
>>> >>> >> Avro here: "Your Data. Any Time, Anywhere." And then mention the
>>> language
>>> >>> >> availability & excellent schema evolution.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Kind regards,
>>> >>> >> Oscar
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 10:43, Martin Grigorov <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> > Hi all,
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > Please check the new candidate for Apache Avro website:
>>> >>> >> > https://avro-website.netlify.app/
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > It is based on Hugo and uses Docsy theme.
>>> >>> >> > Its source code and instructions how to build could be found at
>>> >>> >> > https://github.com/martin-g/avro-website.
>>> >>> >> > The JIRA ticket is:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AVRO-2175
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > I am not web designer, so some things may look not finished.
>>> >>> >> > I've just copied the HTML content from the old site (
>>> >>> >> > https://avro.apache.org/) and converted it to Markdown for
>>> Hugo.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > Any feedback is welcome! With Pull Requests would be awesome!
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > Regards,
>>> >>> >> > Martin
>>> >>> >> >
>>>
>>

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