+1 for a video call. I think it should be pretty straight forward for the Spark runner after the work on read from UnboundedSource and after GroupAlsoByWindow, but from my experience such a call could move us forward fast enough.
On Mon, Mar 13, 2017, 20:37 Eugene Kirpichov <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Let us continue working on this. I am back from various travels and am > eager to help. > > Amit, JB - would you like to perhaps have a videocall to hash this out for > the Spark runner? > > Aljoscha - are the necessary Flink changes done / or is the need for them > obviated by using the (existing) runner-facing state/timer APIs? Should we > have a videocall too? > > Thomas - what do you think about getting this into Apex runner? > > (I think videocalls will allow to make rapid progress, but it's probably a > better idea to keep them separate since they'll involve a lot of > runner-specific details) > > PS - The completion of this in Dataflow streaming runner is currently > waiting only on having a small service-side change implemented and rolled > out for termination of streaming jobs. > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:55 AM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote: > > I recommend proceeding with the runner-facing state & timer APIs; they are > lower-level and more appropriate for this. All runners provide them or use > runners/core implementations, as they are needed for triggering. > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Eugene Kirpichov <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks Aljoscha! > > Minor note: I'm not familiar with what level of support for timers Flink > currently has - however SDF in Direct and Dataflow runner currently does > not use the user-facing state/timer APIs - rather, it uses the > runner-facing APIs (StateInternals and TimerInternals) - perhaps Flink > already implements these. We may want to change this, but for now it's good > enough (besides, SDF uses watermark holds, which are not supported by the > user-facing state API yet). > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:19 AM Aljoscha Krettek < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for the motivation, Eugene! :-) > > I've wanted to do this for a while now but was waiting for the Flink 1.2 > release (which happened this week)! There's some prerequisite work to be > done on the Flink runner: we'll move to the new timer interfaces introduced > in Flink 1.2 and implement support for both the user facing state and timer > APIs. This should make implementation of SDF easier. > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Eugene Kirpichov <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks! Looking forward to this work. > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:50 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks for the update Eugene. > > I will work on the spark runner with Amit. > > Regards > JB > > On Feb 7, 2017, 19:12, at 19:12, Eugene Kirpichov > <[email protected]> wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I'm almost done adding support for Splittable DoFn > >http://s.apache.org/splittable-do-fn to Dataflow streaming runner*, and > >very excited about that. There's only 1 PR > ><https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/1898> remaining, plus enabling > >some > >tests. > > > >* (batch runner is much harder because it's not yet quite clear to me > >how > >to properly implement liquid sharding > >< > https://cloud.google.com/blog/big-data/2016/05/no-shard-left-behind-dynamic-work-rebalancing-in-google-cloud-dataflow > > > >with > >SDF - and the current API is not ready for that yet) > > > >After implementing all the runner-agnostic parts of Splittable DoFn, I > >found them quite easy to integrate into Dataflow streaming runner, and > >I > >think this means it should be easy to integrate into other runners too. > > > >====== Why it'd be cool ====== > >The general benefits of SDF are well-described in the design doc > >(linked > >above). > >As for right now - if we integrated SDF with all runners, it'd already > >enable us to start greatly simplifying the code of existing streaming > >connectors (CountingInput, Kafka, Pubsub, JMS) and writing new > >connectors > >(e.g. a really nice one to implement would be "directory watcher", that > >continuously returns new files in a directory). > > > >As a teaser, here's the complete implementation of an "unbounded > >counter" I > >used for my test of Dataflow runner integration: > > > > class CountFn extends DoFn<String, String> { > > @ProcessElement > >public ProcessContinuation process(ProcessContext c, OffsetRangeTracker > >tracker) { > > for (int i = tracker.currentRestriction().getFrom(); > >tracker.tryClaim(i); ++i) c.output(i); > > return resume(); > > } > > > > @GetInitialRestriction > > public OffsetRange getInitialRange(String element) { return new > >OffsetRange(0, Integer.MAX_VALUE); } > > > > @NewTracker > > public OffsetRangeTracker newTracker(OffsetRange range) { return new > >OffsetRangeTracker(range); } > > } > > > >====== What I'm asking ====== > >So, I'd like to ask for help integrating SDF into Spark, Flink and Apex > >runners from people who are intimately familiar with them - > >specifically, I > >was hoping best-case I could nerd-snipe some of you into taking over > >the > >integration of SDF with your favorite runner ;) > > > >The proper set of people seems to be +Aljoscha Krettek > ><[email protected]> +Maximilian Michels > ><[email protected]> > >[email protected] <[email protected]> +Amit Sela > ><[email protected]> +Thomas > >Weise unless I forgot somebody. > > > >Average-case, I was looking for runner-specific guidance on how to do > >it > >myself. > > > >====== If you want to help ====== > >If somebody decides to take this over, in my absence (I'll be mostly > >gone > >for ~the next month)., the best people to ask for implementation > >advice are +Kenn > >Knowles <[email protected]> and +Daniel Mills <[email protected]> . > > > >For reference, here's how SDF is implemented in the direct runner: > >- Direct runner overrides > >< > https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/0616245e654c60ae94cc2c188f857b74a62d9b24/runners/direct-java/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/direct/ParDoMultiOverrideFactory.java > > > > ParDo.of() for a splittable DoFn and replaces it with SplittableParDo > >< > https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/runners/core-java/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/core/SplittableParDo.java > > > >(common > >transform expansion) > >- SplittableParDo uses two runner-specific primitive transforms: > >"GBKIntoKeyedWorkItems" and "SplittableProcessElements". Direct runner > >overrides the first one like this > >< > https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/cc28f0cb4c44169f933475ae29a32599024d3a1f/runners/direct-java/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/direct/DirectGBKIntoKeyedWorkItemsOverrideFactory.java > >, > >and directly implements evaluation of the second one like this > >< > https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/cc28f0cb4c44169f933475ae29a32599024d3a1f/runners/direct-java/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/runners/direct/SplittableProcessElementsEvaluatorFactory.java > >, > >using runner hooks introduced in this PR > ><https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/1824>. At the core of the hooks is > >"ProcessFn" which is like a regular DoFn but has to be prepared at > >runtime > >with some hooks (state, timers, and runner access to > >RestrictionTracker) > >before you invoke it. I added a convenience implementation of the hook > >mimicking behavior of UnboundedSource. > >- The relevant runner-agnostic tests are in SplittableDoFnTest > >< > https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/cc28f0cb4c44169f933475ae29a32599024d3a1f/sdks/java/core/src/test/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/transforms/SplittableDoFnTest.java > > > >. > > > >That's all it takes, really - the runner has to implement these two > >transforms. When I looked at Spark and Flink runners, it was not quite > >clear to me how to implement the GBKIntoKeyedWorkItems transform, e.g. > >Spark runner currently doesn't use KeyedWorkItem at all - but it seems > >definitely possible. > > > >Thanks! > > > > > -- > Data Artisans GmbH | Stresemannstr. 121A | 10963 Berlin > > [email protected] > +49-(0)30-55599146 > > Registered at Amtsgericht Charlottenburg - HRB 158244 B > Managing Directors: Kostas Tzoumas, Stephan Ewen > > >
