We also have a design that improves the signal even without metrics, so I'm
pretty happy with this.

On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Lukasz Cwik <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I like the usage of metrics since it doesn't depend on external resources.
> I believe there could be some small amount of code shared between runners
> for the PAssert metric verification.
>
> I would say that PAssert by itself and PAssert with metrics are two levels
> of testing available. For runners that don't support metrics than PAssert
> gives a signal (albeit weaker one) and ones that do support metrics will
> have a stronger signal for execution correctness.
>
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Aviem Zur <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Currently, PAssert assertions may not happen and tests will pass while
> > silently hiding issues.
> >
> > Up until now, several runners have implemented an assertion that the
> number
> > of expected successful assertions have actually happened, and that no
> > failed assertions have happened. (runners which check this are Dataflow
> > runner and Spark runner).
> >
> > This has been valuable in the past to find bugs which were hidden by
> > passing tests.
> >
> > The work to repeat this in https://issues.apache.org/
> jira/browse/BEAM-1726
> > has
> > surfaced bugs in the Flink runner that were also hidden by passing tests.
> > However, with the removal of aggregators in
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-1148 this ticket will be
> harder
> > to implement, since Flink runner does not support metrics.
> >
> > I believe that validating that runners do in fact support Beam model is a
> > blocker for first stable release. (BEAM-1726 was also marked as a blocker
> > for Flink runner).
> >
> > I think we have one of 2 choices here:
> > 1. Keep implementing this for each runner separately.
> > 2. Implement this in a runner agnostic way (For runners which support
> > metrics - use metrics, for those that do not use a fallback
> implementation,
> > perhaps using files or some other method). This should be covered by the
> > following ticket: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-1763
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
>

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