+1 for separate jobs if it gets us faster to pre-commit filtering

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:22 AM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com> wrote:

> I like Andrew's solution. Just totally separate jobs for automatic and
> manual.
>
> Kenn
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:56 AM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> That seems like a pretty good interim solution.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:53 AM Andrew Pilloud <apill...@google.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you always run one job for automated and another job for manual you
>>> wouldn't need to remember two trigger phrases. The automated jobs don't
>>> even need trigger phrases. As long as the status contexts are the same
>>> github users never have to know they are two separate jobs.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:49 AM Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought of that as well but would find it annoying that I would need
>>>> to remember two sets of triggers, the ones for the automated jobs and the
>>>> ones for the manual runs. If we re-use the same precommit trigger phrase,
>>>> we would get two runs (automated and manual) of effectively the same thing
>>>> for the jobs where the automated one wouldn't get filtered out.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 9:46 AM Andrew Pilloud <apill...@google.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Might there be a third option of creating a different jenkins job for
>>>>> PR change and manual triggers? It would clutter up the jenkins interface a
>>>>> bit, but they could both post status to the same commitStatusContext on
>>>>> Github, so no one would notice there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 11:14 PM Jason Kuster <jasonkus...@google.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Having submitted a patch to the ghprb-plugin repo before, I think
>>>>>> that regretfully option (b) is probably the right decision here given 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it's unlikely to get accepted, merged, released, and to have Infra update
>>>>>> the plugin in under a week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:42 PM Scott Wegner <sweg...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Indeed, I was going to send out an email about pre-commit filtering,
>>>>>>> but we've already found some kinks and may need to revert it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The change was submitted in PR#5611 [1] and enables Jenkins
>>>>>>> triggering to only run pre-commits based on modified files. However, Udi
>>>>>>> noticed that this also prevents manually running pre-commits on a PR 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> trigger phrases when your PR changes don't match the pre-commit include
>>>>>>> path [2]. This was blocking 2.5.0 release validation, so I have a PR 
>>>>>>> out to
>>>>>>> revert the change [3].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did some investigation and this is a deficiency in the Jenkins
>>>>>>> plugin used to trigger jobs on pull requests. I've filed a bug [4] and
>>>>>>> submitted a PR [5], but there's no guarantee that it'll get accepted or
>>>>>>> when it will be available.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Question for others: we were hoping to enable pre-commit triggering
>>>>>>> as an optimization to decrease testing wait time and limit the impact of
>>>>>>> test flakiness [6]. But this bug in the plugin means we'd lose the 
>>>>>>> ability
>>>>>>> to manually trigger pre-commits which aren't automatically run. One
>>>>>>> workaround would be to run the tests locally instead of on Jenkins, 
>>>>>>> though
>>>>>>> that's clearly less desirable. Is this a blocker?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should we:
>>>>>>> (a) Keep pre-commit triggering enabled for now and hope the upstream
>>>>>>> patch gets accepted, or
>>>>>>> (b) Revert the pre-commit change and wait for the patch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5611
>>>>>>> [2] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5607#issuecomment-397080770
>>>>>>> [3] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5638
>>>>>>> [4] https://github.com/jenkinsci/ghprb-plugin/issues/678
>>>>>>> [5] https://github.com/jenkinsci/ghprb-plugin/pull/680
>>>>>>> [6]
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lfbMhdIyDzIaBTgc9OUByhSwR94kfOzS_ozwKWTVl5U/edit#bookmark=id.6j8bwxnbp7fr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:03 PM Rui Wang <ruw...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Precommit filter is a really coooooooooool optimization!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Rui
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:21 PM Andrew Pilloud <apill...@google.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ah, so this is intended and I didn't break anything? Cool! Sorry
>>>>>>>>> for the false alarm, looks like a great build optimization!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:06 PM Yifan Zou <yifan...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Probably due to the precommit filter applied in #5611
>>>>>>>>>> <https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5611>?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:02 PM Andrew Pilloud <
>>>>>>>>>> apill...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like statuses got posted between me writing this email and
>>>>>>>>>>> sending it. Still wondering why the python and go jobs appear to be 
>>>>>>>>>>> missing?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:00 PM Andrew Pilloud <
>>>>>>>>>>> apill...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Recent PRs don't appear to be running all the precommits, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> success status isn't being pushed to PRs. Anyone know what is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> going on?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> See:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5592
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/5622
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> Jason Kuster
>>>>>> Apache Beam / Google Cloud Dataflow
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <https://goto.google.com/jasonkuster-feedback>
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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