Thank you Huygaa. This document looks good to me. I think auto-assigning
PRs could significantly help especially with first time contributors. It
could also give us a chance to distribute reviews in a more balanced way
across committers.

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 7:37 AM, Alexey Romanenko <aromanenko....@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Strongly agree with auto assigning code reviewers, I guess this is one of
> the main issue for first-starters to whom address their PR.
>
> Also, I’m totally pro for having review style guide which definitively
> should help to unify review process and make it more transparent for all.
>
> Thanks to last efforts to reduce a number of open PRs, there are only
> about 90 opened ones. I believe that most of them are “in progress” but
> others are quite inactive. Perhaps, it would make sense to put some efforts
> to review their status before they will be closed automatically by stale
> bot.
>
> Alexey
>
>
> On 28 Jun 2018, at 10:24, Etienne Chauchot <echauc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for that ! I left comments in the doc, mostly agreements and also a
> comment about public communication.
>
> Etienne
>
> Le mercredi 27 juin 2018 à 15:29 -0700, Robert Bradshaw a écrit :
>
> Thanks for writing this up! I especially like the idea of
>
> automatically assigning code reviewers, e.g. via
>
> https://help.github.com/articles/about-codeowners/
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 11:10 AM Scott Wegner <sc...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for putting together this proposal Huygaa. Overall looks good to me; I 
> added some comments in the doc.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 7:44 PM Kenneth Knowles <k...@google.com> wrote:
>
>
> Does Kubernetes keep up with their backlog? We were hovering around 100 
> before our recent addition of committers & stalebot, and now around 80. I can 
> imagine their 1000 open PRs might be an OK steady state; they have some 6 
> month and 2 month PRs but the overall distribution might be sort of like 
> ours. Is the data in a table somewhere? Couple other reference points: Spark 
> has ~500, Flink ~400, Storm ~150, Rust ~150.
>
>
> Kenn
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:35 PM Rafael Fernandez <rfern...@google.com> wrote:
>
>
> I did a quick pass on the doc and left minor comments, thanks! I have some 
> feedback and thoughts:
>
>
> For metrics and tools, there ought to be mature OSS projects out there we can 
> learn from. I believe Kubernetes has a very healthy practice, it'd be ideal 
> to learn from them. +Griselda Cuevas can connect you (and people working on 
> this).
>
> I really like the idea of a style guide (which can evolve) for the various 
> areas - presumably Java, Python, Go, etc. have their own. The reason I like 
> it is because reviews become easier -- the reviewer will have an easier time 
> working with the contributor to make sure together they can introduce great 
> code that is consistent with the codebase (so they can focus on functionality 
> and scale discussions, not style, which is published).
>
> I think setting review expectations is hard. Many of us in the community have 
> various degrees of time devoted to development - some of us are paid to work 
> on Beam full time, others part time, others are gifting their time and 
> talent. I find inspiration in the Apache Code of Conduct [1] to instead 
> empower people to communicate clearly. A company or a developer may choose to 
> say "This is what you can expect from me", and say, opt-in to email reminders 
> and such. And when something is time sensitive, we should trust reviewers to 
> be Apache-y and do a micro version of "Step down consderately" -- "I can't 
> commit to reviewing this by Friday, I suggest another person.", for example.
>
>
> I think at the end of the day we all need to eliminate guesswork and promote 
> the healthiest communication we can so we can all continue to grow the 
> project as fast as we want.
>
>
> r
>
>
> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 5:48 PM Huygaa Batsaikhan <bat...@google.com> wrote:
>
>
> Reuven, that's great. In this thread, we can continue discussing the usage of 
> review tools, dashboards, and metrics.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 5:27 PM Reuven Lax <re...@google.com> wrote:
>
>
> So I suggested a while ago that we create a code-review guidelines doc, and 
> in fact I was coincidentally just now drafting up a proposal doc. I'll share 
> my proposal doc with the dev list soon.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 5:18 PM Huygaa Batsaikhan <bat...@google.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, I've been looking into ways to improve Beam's code review process based 
> on previous discussions on dev list and summits, and I would like to propose 
> improvement ideas. Please take a look at: 
> https://s.apache.org/beam-code-review.
>
>
> Main proposals suggested in the doc are:
>
>
> Create a code review guideline document.
>
> Build/setup code review tools and dashboards for Beam.
>
> Collect metrics to monitor Beam's code review health.
>
>
> Feel free to add comments in the doc. I am looking for all sorts of 
> suggestions including existing code review guidelines, potential code review 
> tools etc.
>
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> Huygaa
>
>
>

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