@Mikhail I must disagree. I have set Nexmark tests as PostCommit mainly because 
they were used to discover regressions
on all the beam model as soon as possible: when the new regression commit comes 
into master. The graphs (see https://bea
m.apache.org/documentation/sdks/java/nexmark/) help a lot in that way. As 
Reuven said, performance testing is more a
second aim even if it is part of regression.
Etienne
Le mardi 14 août 2018 à 15:40 -0700, Mikhail Gryzykhin a écrit :
> @Reuven Lax Thank you for clarifying. It makes sense to keep them as 
> post-commits then.
> @Ahmet Altay I don't see them being flaky atm. So we are good here. 
> 
> I would prefer to separate perf tests mostly because of requirements, such as 
> runtime, environment, trigger
> restrictions. Right now we have a separate setup with no GHPRB phrase trigger 
> for Nexmark tests.
> 
> My understanding was that due to the "performance" nature of Nexmark tests, 
> that we can not treat them as post-commit
> tests and have to create special setup for them. 
> 
> --Mikhail
> Have feedback? 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:37 AM Ahmet Altay <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I replied before seeing Reuven's comment. In that case it makes sense to 
> > keep them as post commit tests.
> > Are these test flaky because they fail some performance metrics? If that is 
> > the case it makes sense to separate them
> > from functional tests. 
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Reuven Lax <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Nexmark was primarily written as a set of functionality tests, not 
> > > performance tests. In fact some of the Nexmark
> > > queries are written in knowingly inefficient ways, in order to better 
> > > exercise more features of Beam. We also use
> > > Nexmark as performance tests (mostly out of convenience, because we 
> > > already have those tests), however I believe
> > > that is a secondary use.
> > > 
> > > Reuven
> > > 
> > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 9:36 AM Mikhail Gryzykhin <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > 
> > > > As I can understand, a lot of tests in Nexmark set are performance 
> > > > tests. I suggest to rename(or split) the set
> > > > to performance tests. 
> > > > 
> > > > Performance tests are much less reliable compared to post-commit tests 
> > > > and should have different requirements.
> > > > Additionally, they are much more flaky.
> > > > 
> > > > Splitting out performance tests to separate set will allow us to treat 
> > > > failures with lower priority and add more
> > > > tolerance for flakes compared to what we have decided for post-commit 
> > > > tests.
> > > > 
> > > > This will also be more organic to use different builder from 
> > > > PostcommitJobBuilder, since we will want different
> > > > requirements for perf tests.
> > > > 
> > > > I do not believe we have a problem with this in current state, but I 
> > > > expect this to become an issue in the
> > > > future as amount of perf tests grows.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > --Mikhail
> > > > 
> > > > Have feedback? 

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