I would strongly suggest new runners adapt the portability runner from
the start, which will be more forward compatible and more flexible
(e.g. supporting other languages). The primary difference is that
rather than wrapping individual DoFns, one wraps a "fused" bundle of
DoFns (called an ExecutableStage). As it looks liek Twister2 is
written in Java, you can take advantage of much of the existing Java
libraries that already do this that are shared among the other Java
runners.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 7:55 PM Pulasthi Supun Wickramasinghe
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks Kenn and Max for the information. Will read up a little more and 
> discuss with the Twister2 team before deciding on which route to take. I also 
> created an issue in BEAM JIRA[1], but I cannot assign this to my self would 
> someone be able to assign the issue to me. Thanks in advance.
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-7304
>
> Best Regards
> Pulasthi
>
> On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 6:19 AM Maximilian Michels <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Pulasthi,
>>
>> Great to hear you're planning to implement a Twister2 Runner.
>>
>> If you have limited time, you probably want to decide whether to build a
>> "legacy" Java Runner or a portable one. They are not fundamentally
>> different but there are some tricky implementation details for the
>> portable Runner related to the asynchronous communication with the SDK
>> Harness.
>>
>> If you have enough time, first implementing a "legacy" Runner might be a
>> good way to learn the Beam model and subsequently creating a portable
>> Runner should not be hard then.
>>
>> To get an idea of the differences, check out the Flink source code:
>> - FlinkStreamingTransformTranslators (Java "legacy")
>> - FlinkStreamingPortablePipelineTranslator (portable)
>>
>> Feel free to ask questions here or on Slack.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Max
>>
>> On 14.05.19 05:11, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
>> > Welcome! This is very cool to hear about.
>> >
>> > A major caveat about https://beam.apache.org/contribute/runner-guide/ is
>> > that it was written when Beam's portability framework was more of a
>> > sketch. The conceptual descriptions are mostly fine, but the pointers to
>> > Java helper code will lead you to build a "legacy" runner when it is
>> > better to build a portable runner from the start*.
>> >
>> > We now have four portable runners in various levels of completeness:
>> > Spark, Flink, Samza, and Dataflow. I have added some relevant people to
>> > the CC for emphasis. You might also join
>> > https://the-asf.slack.com/#beam-portability though I prefer the dev list
>> > since it gives visibility to a much greater portion of the community.
>> >
>> > Kenn
>> >
>> > *volunteers welcome to update the guide to emphasize portability first
>> >
>> > *From: *Pulasthi Supun Wickramasinghe <[email protected]
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> > *Date: *Mon, May 13, 2019 at 11:03 AM
>> > *To: * <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> >
>> >     Hi All,
>> >
>> >     I am Pulasthi a Ph.D. student at Indiana University. We are planning
>> >     to develop a beam runner for our project Twister2 [1] [2]. Twister2
>> >     is a big data framework which supports both batch and stream
>> >     processing. If you are interested you can find more information on
>> >     [2] or read some of our publications [3]
>> >
>> >     I wanted to share our intent and get some guidance from the beam
>> >     developer community before starting on the project. I was planning
>> >     on going through the code for Apache Spark and Apache Flink runners
>> >     to get a better understanding of what I need to do. It would be
>> >     great if I can get any pointers on how I should approach this
>> >     project. I am currently reading through the runner-guide
>> >     <https://beam.apache.org/contribute/runner-guide/>.
>> >
>> >     Finally, I assume that I need to create a JIRA issue to track the
>> >     progress of this project, right?. I can create the issue but from
>> >     what I read from the contribute section I would need some permission
>> >     to assign it to my self, I hope someone would be able to help me
>> >     with that. Looking forward to working with the Beam community.
>> >
>> >     [1] https://github.com/DSC-SPIDAL/twister2
>> >     [2] https://twister2.gitbook.io/twister2/
>> >     [3] https://twister2.gitbook.io/twister2/publications
>> >
>> >     Best Regards,
>> >     Pulasthi
>> >     --
>> >     Pulasthi S. Wickramasinghe
>> >     PhD Candidate  | Research Assistant
>> >     School of Informatics and Computing | Digital Science Center
>> >     Indiana University, Bloomington
>> >     cell: 224-386-9035
>> >
>
>
>
> --
> Pulasthi S. Wickramasinghe
> PhD Candidate  | Research Assistant
> School of Informatics and Computing | Digital Science Center
> Indiana University, Bloomington
> cell: 224-386-9035

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