Hi all,

I want to contribute more actively to this and push Beam as close as
currently possible towards Java11 both in terms of running and compiling
the project with it.

I needed a bigger picture so I created a spreadsheet to have a clear
roadmap for the whole process. It starts with testing existing java 8
artifacts (part of this is already done) and continues with providing
compile support and later JPMS support for the project. I figured that
before I storm JIRA with some new subtasks of BEAM-2530 it's good to have
something like this thought through. I hope this is also helpful for others
if they want to help to migrate the project to Java 11. Here's the
spreadsheet:

https://s.apache.org/java11-support-roadmap

Any comments highly appreciated. :)

FWIW, grpc devs ’’will be looking into options" for resolving the
above-mentioned gprc issue "this quarter":
https://github.com/grpc/grpc-java/issues/3522

Thanks!
Łukasz

śr., 21 sie 2019 o 20:46 Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> napisał(a):

>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 8:37 AM Elliotte Rusty Harold <elh...@ibiblio.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:51 AM Ismaël Mejía <ieme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> a per case approach (the exception could be portable runners not based
>>> on Java).
>>>
>>> Of course other definitions of being Java 11 compatible are interesting
>>> but probably not part of our current scope. Actions like change the
>>> codebase to use Java 11 specific APIs / idioms, publish Java 11 specific
>>> artifacts or use Java Platform Modules (JPM). All of these may be nice to
>>> have but are probably less important for end users who may just want to be
>>> able to use Beam in its current form in Java 11 VMs.
>>>
>>> What do others think? Is this enough to announce Java 11 compatibility
>>> and add the documentation to the webpage?
>>>
>>
>> No, it isn't, I fear. We don't have to use JPMS in Beam, but Beam really
>> does need to be compatible with JPMS-using apps. The bare minimum here is
>> avoiding split packages, and that needs to include all transitive
>> dependencies, not just Beam itself. I don't think we meet that bar now.
>>
>
> We definitely don't meet the basic bar ourselves, unless someone has done
> a lot of clean up. We've had classes shuffled from jar to jar quite a lot
> without changing their namespace appropriately. It may be mostly limited to
> runner-facing pieces, but I expect for a number of runners (notably the
> Direct Runner) that is enough to bite users.
>
> Kenn
>
>
>>
>> --
>> Elliotte Rusty Harold
>> elh...@ibiblio.org
>>
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