We are using external transforms to get access to PubSubIO within python.
It works well, but there is one major issue remaining to fix:  we have to
build a custom beam with a hack to add the PubSubIO java deps and fix up
the coders.  This affects KafkaIO as well.  There's an issue here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-7870

I consider this to be the most pressing problem with external transforms
right now.

-chad



On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 9:28 AM Chamikara Jayalath <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 8:10 AM Alexey Romanenko <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> AFAIK, there's no official guide for cross-language pipelines. But there
>>> are examples and test cases you can use as reference such as:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/python/apache_beam/examples/wordcount_xlang.py
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/java/io/google-cloud-platform/src/test/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/gcp/pubsub/PubsubIOExternalTest.java
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/runners/core-construction-java/src/test/java/org/apache/beam/runners/core/construction/ValidateRunnerXlangTest.java
>>>
>>> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/python/apache_beam/runners/portability/expansion_service_test.py
>>>
>>
>> I'm trying to work with tech writers to add more documentation related to
>> cross-language (in a few months). But any help related to documenting what
>> we have now is greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>> That would be great since now the information is a bit scattered over
>> different places. I’d be happy to help with any examples and their testing
>> that I hope I’ll have after a while.
>>
>
> Great.
>
>
>>
>> The runner and SDK supports are in working state I could say but not many
>>> IOs expose their cross-language interface yet (you can easily write
>>> cross-language configuration for any Python transforms by yourself though).
>>>
>>
>> Should mention here the test suites for portable Flink and Spark Heejong
>> added recently :)
>>
>>
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/A-D/view/Beam/view/PostCommit/job/beam_PostCommit_XVR_Flink/
>>
>> https://builds.apache.org/view/A-D/view/Beam/view/PostCommit/job/beam_PostCommit_XVR_Spark/
>>
>>
>> Nice! Looks like my question above about cross-language support in Spark
>> runner was redundant.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> - Is the information here
>>>> https://beam.apache.org/roadmap/connectors-multi-sdk/ up-to-date? Are
>>>> there any other entry points you can recommend?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think it's up-to-date.
>>>
>>
>> Mostly up to date.  Testing status is more complete now and we are
>> actively working on getting the dependences story correct and adding
>> support for DataflowRunner.
>>
>>
>> Are there any “umbrella" Jiras regarding cross-language support that I
>> can track?
>>
>
> I don't think we have an umbrella JIRA currently. I can create one and
> mention it in the roadmap.
>

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