My opinion doesn't matter much, since we're just going to cherry pick the
fix into our fork anyways, but you're essentially proposing releasing a
build that *WILL* cause data loss to anyone who uses processing time timers.

I'll leave it up to the community to decide, but it seems like a pretty big
bug.

Also, fwiw, there is a PR open that adds a test for this [1], but it was
never merged (it's been open for 12 days).

[1] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11226

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:52 PM Rui Wang <ruw...@google.com> wrote:

> My opinion is, even though that commit was missing, no test/validation
> gave a signal that something relevant was broken. Plus that fix didn't
> include a test.
>
> I will hesitate to say such a fix is critical for a release, unless there
> is something to test or validate it.
>
>
> -Rui
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:46 PM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> timers are essentially broken without it, so I'd say -1
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:45 PM Rui Wang <ruw...@google.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ok so the source is consistent with the binary. What undecided is if
>>> missing that commit is -1, or that can be marked as a known issue in
>>> release note.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Rui
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:38 PM Steve Niemitz <sniem...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I can confirm that the artifact on maven central [1] does not have the
>>>> change in it either, I disassembled it with javap.
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebeam-1100/org/apache/beam/beam-runners-core-java/2.20.0/beam-runners-core-java-2.20.0.jar
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:28 PM Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If the source doesn't represent the binaries, should that be an
>>>>> automatic -1?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:08 PM Valentyn Tymofieiev <
>>>>> valen...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 1:21 PM Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Valentyn, do the container issues affect our external containers as
>>>>>>> well?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, external containers install Beam, so all Beam dependencies are
>>>>>> also installed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Context (for others reading this): Currently built Dataflow Python
>>>>>> containers don't install one of Beam 2.20.0 dependencies, which will be
>>>>>> fixed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I verified the signatures and sources, they all look good, except
>>>>>>> that we're missing https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11252 if we
>>>>>>> were hoping to get that in. The wheel looks fine as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 12:16 PM Rui Wang <ruw...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A friendly ping to remind the vote for RC1 is pending.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Rui
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 7:21 AM Péter Farkas <peter.far...@aliz.ai>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 - Validated only BEAM-9452
>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-9452>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 00:22, Ahmet Altay <al...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 - Validated python quickstart examples. Thank you for
>>>>>>>>>> preparing the RC.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 12:25 PM Ismaël Mejía <ieme...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can somebody with windows please validate this one:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-9452
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We really need to put some windows tests in place in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we can
>>>>>>>>>>> try github actions for this (but well the vote is not the place
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> discuss this).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I completely agree with you. I think we kind of already discussed
>>>>>>>>>> this (https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-9388) but we
>>>>>>>>>> did not get a chance to work on it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 8:16 PM Rui Wang <ruw...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Add Maven and Java versions that were used for building java
>>>>>>>>>>> artifacts:
>>>>>>>>>>> > maven: 3.6.2
>>>>>>>>>>> > java: 1.8.0_181
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > -Rui
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:06 PM Rui Wang <ruw...@google.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Please review and vote on the release candidate #1 for the
>>>>>>>>>>> version 1.20.0, as follows:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [ ] +1, Approve the release
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [ ] -1, Do not approve the release (please provide specific
>>>>>>>>>>> comments)
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> The complete staging area is available for your review, which
>>>>>>>>>>> includes:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> * JIRA release notes [1],
>>>>>>>>>>> >> * the official Apache source release to be deployed to
>>>>>>>>>>> dist.apache.org [2], which is signed with the key with
>>>>>>>>>>> fingerprint 699A 22D2 D4F0 0AD3 957B  6A88 38B1 C6B4 25EB A67C [3],
>>>>>>>>>>> >> * all artifacts to be deployed to the Maven Central
>>>>>>>>>>> Repository [4],
>>>>>>>>>>> >> * source code tag "v1.20.0-RC1" [5],
>>>>>>>>>>> >> * website pull request listing the release [6], publishing
>>>>>>>>>>> the API reference manual [7], and the blog post [8].
>>>>>>>>>>> >> * Java artifacts were built with Maven MAVEN_VERSION and
>>>>>>>>>>> OpenJDK/Oracle JDK JDK_VERSION.
>>>>>>>>>>> >> TODO: do these versions matter, and are they stamped into the
>>>>>>>>>>> artifacts?
>>>>>>>>>>> >> * Python artifacts are deployed along with the source release
>>>>>>>>>>> to the dist.apache.org [2].
>>>>>>>>>>> >> * Validation sheet with a tab for 2.20.0 release to help with
>>>>>>>>>>> validation [9].
>>>>>>>>>>> >> * Docker images published to Docker Hub [10].
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> The vote will be open for at least 72 hours. It is adopted by
>>>>>>>>>>> majority approval, with at least 3 PMC affirmative votes.
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Release Manager
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=12319527&version=12346780
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [2] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/beam/2.20.0/
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [3] https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/beam/KEYS
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [4]
>>>>>>>>>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachebeam-1100/
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [5] https://github.com/apache/beam/tree/v2.20.0-RC1
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [6] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11285
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [7] https://github.com/apache/beam-site/pull/602
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [8] https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/11298
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [9]
>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qk-N5vjXvbcEk68GjbkSZTR8AGqyNUM-oLFo_ZXBpJw/edit#gid=318600984
>>>>>>>>>>> >> [10] https://hub.docker.com/search?q=apache%2Fbeam&type=image
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter Farkas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lead Data Architect
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> www.aliz.ai
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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