On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:47 PM Robert Bradshaw <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:36 PM Brian Hulette <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Ah yes I'm +1 for that approach too - it would let us leverage all the
> schema-inference already in the Java SDK for translating configuration
> objects which would be great.
> > Things on the Python side would be trickier as schemas don't formally
> support all the types you can use in the PayloadBuilder implementations [1]
> yet, just NamedTuple. For now we could just make the PayloadBuilder
> implementations generate Rows without making that translation available for
> use in PCollections.
>

This will be a good opportunity to add some sort of a minimal Python type
to Beam schema mapping :)


>
> Yes, though eventually it might be nice to support all of these
> various types as schema'd PCollection elements as well.
>
> > Do we need to worry about update compatibility for
> ExternalConfigurationPayload?
>
> Technically, each URN defines their payload, and the fact that we've
> settled on ExternalConfigurationPayload is a convention. On a
> practical note, we haven't declared these protos stable yet. (I would
> like to do so before we drop support for Python 2, as external
> transforms are a possible escape hatch and the first strong motivation
> to have external transforms that span Beam versions).
>

+1


>
> > [1]
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/master/sdks/python/apache_beam/transforms/external.py
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:23 PM Robert Bradshaw <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would be in favor of just using a schema to store the entire
> >> configuration. The reason we went with what we have to day is that we
> >> didn't have cross language schemas yet.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 12:24 PM Brian Hulette <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> > I noticed that currently the ExternalConfigurationPayload uses a list
> of coder URNs to represent the coder that was used to serialize each
> configuration field [1]. This seems acceptable at first blush, but there's
> one notable issue: it has no place to store a payload for the coder. Most
> standard coders don't use a payload so it's not a problem, but row coder
> does use a payload to store it's schema, which means it can't be used in an
> ExternalConfigurationPayload today.
> >> >
> >> > Is there a reason not to just use the Coder message [2] in
> ExternalConfigurationPayload instead of a list of coder URNs? That would
> work with row coder, and it would also make it easier to re-use logic for
> translating Pipeline protos.
> >> >
> >> > I'd be happy to make this change, but I wanted to ask on dev@ in
> case there's something I'm missing here.
> >> >
> >> > Brian
> >> >
> >> > [1]
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/c54a0b7f49f2eb4a15df115205e2fa455116ccbe/model/pipeline/src/main/proto/external_transforms.proto#L34-L35
> >> > [2]
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/c54a0b7f49f2eb4a15df115205e2fa455116ccbe/model/pipeline/src/main/proto/beam_runner_api.proto#L542-L555
>

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