+1 to expose set_output_timestamp and enrich python set timer api.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 12:01 PM Boyuan Zhang <boyu...@google.com> wrote:

> Hi Maximilian,
>
> It makes sense to set  hold_timestamp as fire_timestamp when the
> fire_timestamp is in the event time domain. Otherwise, the system may
> advance the watermark incorrectly.
> I think we can do something similar to Java FnApiRunner[1]:
>
>    - Expose set_output_timestamp API to python timer as well
>    - If set_output_timestamp is not specified and timer is in event
>    domain, we can use fire_timestamp as hold_timestamp
>    - Otherwise, use input_timestamp as hold_timestamp.
>
> What do you think?
>
> [1]
> https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/edb42952f6b0aa99477f5c7baca6d6a0d93deb4f/sdks/java/harness/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/fn/harness/FnApiDoFnRunner.java#L1433-L1493
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 9:00 AM Maximilian Michels <m...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> We ran into problems setting event time timers per-element in the Python
>> SDK. Pipeline progress would stall.
>>
>> Turns out, although the Python SDK does not expose the timer output
>> timestamp feature to the user, it sets the timer output timestamp to the
>> current input timestamp of an element.
>>
>> This will lead to holding back the watermark until the timer fires (the
>> Flink Runner respects the timer output timestamp when advancing the
>> output watermark). We had set the fire timestamp to a timestamp so far
>> in the future, that pipeline progress would completely stall for
>> downstream transforms, due to the held back watermark.
>>
>> Considering that this feature is not even exposed to the user in the
>> Python SDK, I think we should set the default output timestamp to the
>> fire timestamp, and not to the input timestamp. This is also how timer
>> work in the Java SDK.
>>
>> Let me know what you think.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> PR: https://github.com/apache/beam/pull/12531
>>
>

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