Hi Reuven,

As Luke mentioned, at least there are some limitations around tracking
watermark with flink cycles. I'm going to use State + Timer without flink
cycle to support self-checkpoint. For dynamic split, we can either explore
flink cycle approach or limit depth approach.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 5:33 PM Reuven Lax <[email protected]> wrote:

> Aren't there some limitations associated with flink cycles? I seem to
> remember various features that could not be used. I'm assuming that
> watermarks are not supported across cycles, but is there anything else?
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 7:12 AM Maximilian Michels <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for starting the conversation. The two approaches both look good
>> to me. Probably we want to start with approach #1 for all Runners to be
>> able to support delaying bundles. Flink supports cycles and thus
>> approach #2 would also be applicable and could be used to implement
>> dynamic splitting.
>>
>> -Max
>>
>> On 05.10.20 23:13, Luke Cwik wrote:
>> > Thanks Boyuan, I left a few comments.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 11:12 AM Boyuan Zhang <[email protected]
>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hi team,
>> >
>> >     I'm looking at adding self-checkpoint support to portable Flink
>> >     runner(BEAM-10940
>> >     <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-10940>) for both batch
>> >     and streaming. I summarized the problem that we want to solve and
>> >     proposed 2 potential approaches in this doc
>> >     <
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1372B7HYxtcUYjZOnOM7OBTfSJ4CyFg_gaPD_NUxWClo/edit?usp=sharing
>> >.
>> >
>> >     I want to collect feedback on which approach is preferred and
>> >     anything that I have not taken into consideration yet but I should.
>> >     Many thanks to all your help!
>> >
>> >     Boyuan
>> >
>>
>

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