On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 3:18 AM Ismaël Mejía <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing,
>
> I was initially confused by the title/terminology, I thought it was
> about an end-user transform but this is a 'protocol' for a runner to
> get the string representation of an element encoded by a SDK Harness
> (potentially in a different language) if I understood correctly.
>
> Are there use cases where a runner cares about the String
> representation of data encoded by the SDK harness apart of the
> debugging case?

Yeah, I think this is the intent. E.g. a runner could use this to
show, in its UI or logs, particularly expensive elements, or hot keys,
or excessive uses of state, or even just a sampling of "typical"
elements for a given PCollection.

> I ask this because I was imagining that if we care
> 'only' about debugging data processed by the harness, we could just
> have a new debug-like Instruction that produces the tuple of <encoded
> data,  string representation> and avoid a round-trip.

Could you clarify what you mean by this? We certainly wouldn't want
the stringification of all elements, only some of them, often
post-hoc.

> But well take this with a grain of salt, I am far from an expert on
> portability, just curious about finding the simplest approach.
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 12:02 AM Sam Rohde <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > done!
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 3:54 PM Tyson Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Can you open up comment access please?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 3:40 PM Sam Rohde <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> +Lukasz Cwik
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 12:04 PM Sam Rohde <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm working on a project in Dataflow that requires the runner to 
> >>>> translate an element to a human-readable form. To do this, I want to add 
> >>>> a new well-known transform that allows any runner to ask the SDK to 
> >>>> stringify (human-readable) an element. Let me know what you think, you 
> >>>> can find the proposed specification and implementation details here.
> >>>>
> >>>> If there are no objections, I want to start implementation as soon as I 
> >>>> can.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Sam

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