On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 9:37 AM Claire McGinty <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Ahmet! Yes, I think it should be documented in the release notes.
>

Great. +Vitaly, do you want to add the breaking change to the release
notes, since this was related your change.


> What do you think of Ryan’s suggestion to add a ReflectAvroCoder or a
> configuration option to the existing AvroCoder?
>

I am not sure I am the best person to answer this. Second option, of adding
a configuration to the existing AvroCoder, rather than creating a new coder
makes more sense to me.

That said, people who might have an opinion: /cc @Ismaël Mejía
<[email protected]> @Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> @Lukasz Cwik
<[email protected]> +Vitaly


>
> Thanks,
> Claire
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 4:15 PM Ahmet Altay <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Is this something we need to add to the 2.30.0 release notes (
>> https://beam.apache.org/blog/beam-2.30.0/) as a breaking change?
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 7:11 AM Ryan Skraba <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!  Good catch, I'm taking a look, but it looks like you're
>>> entirely correct and there isn't any obvious workaround.  I guess you
>>> could regenerate every SpecificRecord class in order to add the
>>> "java-class" or "avro.java.string" annotation, but that shouldn't be
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>> From the Avro perspective, we should always have been using
>>> SpecificDatumReader/Writer for all generated SpecificRecords...  We
>>> would still have the same Utf8 and .toString problems, but at least
>>> there would be no change in behaviour during migration :/
>>>
>>> As a side note, the Apache Avro project should probably reconsider
>>> whether the Utf8 class still adds any value with modern JVMs!  If I
>>> understand correctly, it was originally in place because Hadoop had a
>>> performance boost when it could reuse mutable data containers.
>>>
>>> Moving forward, I think your suggestion is the most pragmatic: either
>>> add a configuration option to AvroCoder to always drop to ReflectData,
>>> or explicitly provide a ReflectAvroCoder that only uses reflection.
>>>
>>> I took the liberty of creating the JIRA
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-12628 JIRA, so I could
>>> create an link an Avro issue!  Please feel free to update if I missed
>>> anything.
>>>
>>> Best regards, Ryan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 10:53 PM Claire McGinty
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > When upgrading from Beam 2.29.0 to 2.30.0, we encountered some
>>> unexpected runtime issues due to changes from BEAM-2303. This PR updated
>>> AvroCoder to use SpecificDatum{Reader,Writer} instead
>>> ofReflectDatum{Reader,Writer} in its implementation.
>>> >
>>> > When using the Reflect* suite, Avro string fields have getters/setters
>>> defined with a CharSequence signature, but are by default decoded as
>>> java.lang.Strings [1]. But the Specific* suitehas a different default
>>> behavior for decoding Avro string fields: unless the Avro schema property
>>> "java-class" is set to "java.lang.String", the decoded CharSequences will
>>> by default be implemented as org.apache.avro.util.Utf8 objects [2].
>>> >
>>> > This is causing some migration pain for us as we're having to either
>>> add the java-class property to all string field schemas, or call .toString
>>> on a lot of fields we could just cast before. Additionally, Utf8 isn't
>>> Serializable and there's no default Coder representation for it. Beam's
>>> AvroSink/AvroSource still use the Reflect* reader/writer, as well.I created
>>> a quick Gist to demonstrate the issue: [3].
>>> >
>>> > I'm wondering if there's any possibility of making the use of Reflect*
>>> vs Specific* configurable in AvroCoder, or maybe setting a default String
>>> type in the coder constructor.  If not, maybe this change should be
>>> documented in the release notes?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Claire
>>>
>>

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