Since I've been in GHA files lately... I think they have a very useful pattern which we could borrow from or learn from, where setting up the variables happens separately, like https://github.com/apache/beam/blob/57821c191d322f9f21c01a34c55e0c40eda44f1e/.github/workflows/build_release_candidate.yml#L270
If we called the section "vars" and then the config could use the vars in the destination. I'm making this example deliberately a little gross: - vars: - USER_REGION: $.user.metadata.region - USER_GROUP: $.user.groups[0].name - config: - path: gs://output-bucket-${vars.USER_REGION}/files/${vars.USER_GROUP}-${fileio.SHARD_NUM}-${fileio.WINDOW} I think it strikes a good balance between arbitrary lambdas and just a prefix/suffix control, giving a really easy place where we can say "the whole value of this YAML field is a path expression into the structured data" Kenn On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 6:09 PM Chamikara Jayalath via dev < dev@beam.apache.org> wrote: > I would say: > > sink: > type: WriteToParquet > config: > path: /beam/filesytem/dest > prefix: <my prefix> > suffix: <my suffix> > > Underlying SDK will add the middle part of the file names to make sure > that files generated by various bundles/windows/shards do not conflict. > > This will satisfy the vast majority of use-cases I believe. Fully > customizing the file pattern sounds like a more advanced use case that can > be left for "real" SDKs. > > For dynamic destinations, I think just making the "path" component > support a lambda that is parameterized by the input should be adequate > since this allows customers to direct files written to different > destination directories. > > sink: > type: WriteToParquet > config: > path: <destination lambda> > prefix: <my prefix> > suffix: <my suffix> > > I'm not sure what would be the best way to specify a lambda here though. > Maybe a regex or the name of a Python callable ? > > Thanks, > Cham > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 2:06 PM Robert Bradshaw via dev < > dev@beam.apache.org> wrote: > >> .On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 1:49 PM Reuven Lax <re...@google.com> wrote: >> >>> Just FYI - the reason why names (including prefixes) in >>> DynamicDestinations were parameterized via a lambda instead of just having >>> the user add it via MapElements is performance. We discussed something >>> along the lines of what you are suggesting (essentially having the user >>> create a KV where the key contained the dynamic information). The problem >>> was that often the size of the generated filepath was often much larger >>> (sometimes by 2 OOM) than the information in the record, and there was a >>> desire to avoid record blowup. e.g. the record might contain a single >>> integer userid, and the filepath prefix would then be >>> /long/path/to/output/users/<id>. This was especially bad in cases where the >>> data had to be shuffled, and the existing dynamic destinations method >>> allowed extracting the filepath only _after_ the shuffle. >>> >> >> That is a consideration I hadn't thought much of, thanks for >> bringing this up. >> >> >>> Now there may not be any good way to keep this benefit in a >>> declarative approach such as YAML (or at least a good easy way - we could >>> always allow the user to pass in a SQL expression to extract the filename >>> from the record!), but we should keep in mind that this might mean that >>> YAML-generated pipelines will be less efficient for certain use cases. >>> >> >> Yep, it's not as straightforward to do in a declarative way. I would like >> to avoid mixing UDFs (with their associated languages and execution >> environments) if possible. Though I'd like the performance of a >> "straightforward" YAML pipeline to be that which one can get writing >> straight-line Java (and possibly better, if we can leverage the structure >> of schemas everywhere) this is not an absolute requirement for all >> features. >> >> I wonder if separating out a constant prefix vs. the dynamic stuff could >> be sufficient to mitigate the blow-up of pre-computing this in most cases >> (especially in the context of a larger pipeline). Alternatively, rather >> than just a sharding pattern, one could have a full filepattern that >> includes format parameters for dynamically computed bits as well as the >> shard number, windowing info, etc. (There are pros and cons to this.) >> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 12:37 PM Robert Bradshaw via dev < >>> dev@beam.apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Currently the various file writing configurations take a single >>>> parameter, path, which indicates where the (sharded) output should be >>>> placed. In other words, one can write something like >>>> >>>> pipeline: >>>> ... >>>> sink: >>>> type: WriteToParquet >>>> config: >>>> path: /beam/filesytem/dest >>>> >>>> and one gets files like "/beam/filesystem/dest-X-of-N" >>>> >>>> Of course, in practice file writing is often much more complicated than >>>> this (especially when it comes to Streaming). For reference, I've included >>>> links to our existing offerings in the various SDKs below. I'd like to >>>> start a discussion about what else should go in the "config" parameter and >>>> how it should be expressed in YAML. >>>> >>>> The primary concern is around naming. This can generally be split into >>>> (1) the prefix, which must be provided by the users (2) the sharing >>>> information, includes both shard counts (e.g. (the -X-of-N suffix) but also >>>> windowing information (for streaming pipelines) which we may want to allow >>>> the user to customize the formatting of, and (3) a suffix like .json or >>>> .avro that is useful for both humans and tooling and can often be inferred >>>> but should allow customization as well. >>>> >>>> An interesting case is that of dynamic destinations, where the prefix >>>> (or other parameters) may themselves be functions of the records >>>> themselves. (I am excluding the case where the format itself is >>>> variable--such cases are probably better handled by explicitly partitioning >>>> the data and doing multiple writes, as this introduces significant >>>> complexities and the set of possible formats is generally finite and known >>>> ahead of time.) I propose that we leverage the fact that we have structured >>>> data to be able to pull out these dynamic parameters. For example, if we >>>> have an input data set with a string column my_col we could allow something >>>> like >>>> >>>> config: >>>> path: {dynamic: my_col} >>>> >>>> which would pull this information out at runtime. (With the MapToFields >>>> transform, it is very easy to compute/append additional fields to existing >>>> records.) Generally this field would then be stripped from the written >>>> data, which would only see the subset of non-dynamically referenced columns >>>> (though this could be configurable: we could add an attribute like >>>> {dynamic: my_col, Keep: true} or require the set of columns to be actually >>>> written (or elided) to be enumerated in the config or allow/require the >>>> actual data to be written to be in a designated field of the "full" input >>>> records as arranged by a preceding transform). It'd be great to get >>>> input/impressions from a wide range of people here on what would be the >>>> most natural. Often just writing out snippets of various alternatives can >>>> be quite informative (though I'm avoiding putting them here for the moment >>>> to avoid biasing ideas right off the bat). >>>> >>>> For streaming pipelines it is often essential to write data out in a >>>> time-partitioned manner. The typical way to do this is to add the windowing >>>> information into the shard specification itself, and a (set of) file(s) is >>>> written on each window closing. Beam YAML already supports any transform >>>> being given a "windowing" configuration which will cause a WindowInto >>>> transform to be applied to its input(s) before application which can sit >>>> naturally on a sink. We may want to consider if non-windowed writes make >>>> sense as well (though how this interacts with the watermark and underlying >>>> implementations are a large open question, so this is a larger change that >>>> might make sense to defer). >>>> >>>> Note that I am explicitly excluding "coders" here. All data in YAML >>>> should be schema'd, and writers should know how to write this structured >>>> data. We may want to allow a "schema" field to allow a user to specify the >>>> desired schema in a manner compatible with the sink format itself (e.g. >>>> avro, json, whatever) that could be used both for validation and possibly >>>> resolving ambiguities (e.g. if the sink has an enum format that is not >>>> expressed in the schema of the input PCollection). >>>> >>>> Some other configuration options are that some formats (especially >>>> text-based ones) allow for specification of an external compression type >>>> (which may be inferable from the suffix), whether to write a single shard >>>> if the input collection is empty or no shards at all (an occasional user >>>> request that's supported for some Beam sinks now), whether to allow fixed >>>> sharing (generally discouraged, as it disables things like automatic >>>> shading based on input size, let alone dynamic work rebalancing, though >>>> sometimes this is useful if the input is known to be small and a single >>>> output is desired regardless of the restriction in parallelism), or other >>>> sharding parameters (e.g. limiting the number of total elements or >>>> (approximately) total number of bytes per output shard). Some of these >>>> options may not be available/implemented for all formats--consideration >>>> should be given as to how to handle this inconsistency (runtime errors for >>>> unsupported combinations or simply not allowing them on any until all are >>>> supported). >>>> >>>> A final consideration: we do not anticipate exposing the full >>>> complexity of Beam in the YAML offering. For advanced users using a "real" >>>> SDK will often be preferable, and we intend to provide a migration path >>>> from YAML to a language of your choice (codegen) as a migration path. So we >>>> should balance simplicity with completeness and utility here. >>>> >>>> Sure, we could just pick something, but given that the main point of >>>> YAML is not capability, but expressibility and ease-of-use, I think it's >>>> worth trying to get the expression of these concepts right. I'm sure many >>>> of you have written a pipeline to files at some point in time; I'd welcome >>>> any thoughts anyone has on the matter. >>>> >>>> - Robert >>>> >>>> >>>> P.S. A related consideration: how should we consider the plain Read >>>> (where that file pattern is given at pipeline construction) from the >>>> ReadAll variants? Should they be separate transforms, or should we instead >>>> allow the same named transform (e.g. ReadFromParquet) support both modes, >>>> depending on whether an input PCollection or explicit file path is given >>>> (the two being mutually exclusive, with exactly one required, and good >>>> error messaging of course)? >>>> >>>> >>>> Java: >>>> https://beam.apache.org/releases/javadoc/current/org/apache/beam/sdk/io/TextIO.Write.html >>>> Python: >>>> https://beam.apache.org/releases/pydoc/current/apache_beam.io.textio.html#apache_beam.io.textio.WriteToText >>>> Go: >>>> https://pkg.go.dev/github.com/apache/beam/sdks/go/pkg/beam/io/textio#Write >>>> Typescript: >>>> https://beam.apache.org/releases/typedoc/current/functions/io_textio.writeToText.html >>>> Scio: >>>> https://spotify.github.io/scio/api/com/spotify/scio/io/TextIO$$WriteParam.html >>>> >>>>