I agree with Aljoscha about Kafka.

How about having one integration test for BoundedSource and one for
UnboundedSource ? from apache perspective it makes sense to test this
end-to-end on HDFS and Kafka (respectively).

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:34 AM Aljoscha Krettek <aljos...@apache.org>
wrote:

> +Jason, looping him in directly because he might have an opinion on what
> I'm going to say.
>
> Should we maybe add integration tests that verify that all runners can
> correctly read from and write to an external system in a complete Pipeline.
> At least for Kafka, which seems to be the most used option in the
> open-source space, this would make a lot of sense, IMHO.
>
> On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 at 21:49 Robert Bradshaw <rober...@google.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Eventually we'll be able to communicate intent with the runner much
> > more directly via the ProcessContinuation object:
> >
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/blob/a0f649eaca8d8bd47d22db0ba7150fea1bf07975/sdks/java/core/src/main/java/org/apache/beam/sdk/transforms/DoFn.java#L658
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks for the update and summary.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > JB
> > >
> > > ⁣
> > >
> > > On Oct 18, 2016, 20:47, at 20:47, Amit Sela <amitsel...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>I wanted to summarize here a couple of important points raised in some
> > >>PRs
> > >>I was involved with, and while those PRs were about KafkaIO and related
> > >>to
> > >>the Spark/Direct runners, some important notes were made and I think
> > >>they
> > >>are worth this thread.
> > >>
> > >>*Background*:
> > >>The KafkaIO waits (5 seconds) before starting to read, and (10 millis)
> > >>between advancing the reader, which is problematic for the Spark runner
> > >>as
> > >>it might attempt to read (every microbatch) for a shorter period, and
> > >>so it
> > >>will never start.
> > >>Raghu Angadi mentioned in this conversation
> > >><https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/pull/1071> that originally
> > >>the
> > >>wait period was set to 10 millis for both start() and advance(), but it
> > >>was
> > >>changed mostly due to DirectRunner issues.
> > >>PR#1125 <https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/pull/1125>
> originally
> > >>attempted to allow runners to configure those properties via
> > >>PipelineOptions, but Dan Halperin raised some interesting points:
> > >>
> > >>   - Readers should return as soon as they are able.
> > >> - Runners may poll advance() in a loop for a certain period of time if
> > >>   it returned too fast.
> > >>   - Runners must tolerate sources that take a long time to start or
> > >>   advance, because real systems operate that way.
> > >>
> > >>Dan suggested (and I clearly agreed) that this should be discussed
> > >>here.
> > >>
> > >>BTW, Thomas Groh mentioned that the DirectRunner is OK now with much
> > >>shorter wait periods, and PR#1125 now aims to re-set the 5 seconds
> > >>wait-on-start to 10 millis.
> > >>I think this is a good example of Dan's points here:  Kafka reader can
> > >>clearly return much faster (millis not seconds) and the DirectRunner
> > >>accommodates this now by reusing it's readers.
> > >>
> > >>I Hope I didn't forget/misunderstood anything (please correct me if I
> > >>did).
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>Amit
> >
>

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