In the spirit of explicitly summarizing and concluding threads on list: I
think we have affirmative consensus to go for it when a downstream
integration is completely conflict-free and fixup-free.

On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 12:43 PM Robert Bradshaw
<rober...@google.com.invalid> wrote:

> My concern was mostly about what to do in the face of conflicts, but
> it sounds like the consensus is that for a clean merge, with no
> conflicts or test breakage (or other concerns) a committer is free to
> push without any oversight which is fine by me.
>
> [If/when the Mergbot comes into action, and runs more extensive tests
> than standard precommit, it might make sense to still go through that
> rather than debug bad merges discovered in postcommit tests.]
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com.invalid>
> wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > I concur it is fine to proceed with a downstream integration (master ->
> > feature branch -> sub-feature branch) without waiting for review for a
> > completely clean merge. Exactly as proposed -- I think there should still
> > be a pull request and comment saying it is a clean merge. (In some ideal
> > world, this would happen nightly by a tool automatically, but I think
> > that's not feasible in the short term.)
> >
> > I think other cases (upstream integration, merge conflict, any manual
> > action, etc.) should still wait for a normal review.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Thomas Weise <t...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >> For a merge from master to the feature branch that does not require
> extra
> >> changes, RTC does not add value. It actually delays and burns reviewer
> time
> >> (even mechanics need some) that "real" PRs could benefit from. If
> >> adjustments are needed, then the regular process kicks in.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 1:33 AM, Amit Sela <amitsel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I generally agree with Kenneth.
> >> >
> >> > While working on the SparkRunnerV2 branch, it was a pain - i avoided
> >> > frequent merges to avoid trivial PRs, but it cost me with very large
> and
> >> > non-trivial merges later.
> >> > I think that frequent merges for feature-branches should most of the
> time
> >> > be trivial (no conflicts) and a committer should be allowed to
> self-merge
> >> > once tests pass.
> >> > As for conflicts, even for the smallest once I'd go with review just
> so
> >> > it's very clear when self-merging is OK - we can always revisit this
> >> later
> >> > and further discuss if we think we can improve this process.
> >> >
> >> > I guess +1 from me.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Amit.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 8:10 AM Frances Perry <f...@google.com.invalid
> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 9:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> j...@nanthrax.net
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Agree. When possible it would be great to have the branch merged
> on
> >> > > master
> >> > > > quickly, even when it's not fully ready. It would give more
> >> visibility
> >> > to
> >> > > > potential contributors.
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > This thread is about the opposite, I think -- merging master into
> >> feature
> >> > > branches regularly to prevent them from getting out of sync.
> >> > >
> >> > > As for increasing the visibility of feature branches, we have these
> new
> >> > > webpages:
> >> > > http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/work-in-progress/
> >> > > http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/contribution-
> >> > > guide/#feature-branches
> >> > > with more changes coming in the basic SDK/Runner landing pages too.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>

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