+1

Manu

On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 2:40 PM Tyler Akidau <taki...@google.com.invalid>
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 1:10 PM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <j...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > Regards
> > JB
> >
> > On 12/07/2016 10:37 PM, Kenneth Knowles wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I want to bring up another major backwards-incompatible change before
> it
> > is
> > > too late, to resolve [BEAM-438].
> > >
> > > Summary: Leave PInput.apply the same but rename PTransform.apply to
> > > PTransform.expand. I have opened [PR #1538] just for reference (it took
> > 30
> > > seconds using IDE automated refactor)
> > >
> > > This change affects *PTransform authors* but does *not* affect pipeline
> > > authors.
> > >
> > > This issue was filed a long time ago. It has been a problem many times
> > with
> > > actual users since before Beam started incubating. This is what goes
> > wrong
> > > (often):
> > >
> > >    PCollection<Foo> input = ...
> > >    PTransform<PCollection<Foo>, ...> transform = ...
> > >
> > >    transform.apply(input)
> > >
> > > This type checks and even looks perfectly normal. Do you see the error?
> > >
> > > ... what we need the user to write is:
> > >
> > >     input.apply(transform)
> > >
> > > What a confusing difference! After all, the first one type-checks and
> the
> > > first one is how you apply a Function or Predicate or
> > SerializableFunction,
> > > etc. But it is broken. With transform.apply(input) the transform is not
> > > registered with the pipeline at all.
> > >
> > > We obviously can't (and don't want to) change the most core way that
> > > pipeline authors use Beam, so PInput.apply (aka PCollection.apply) must
> > > remain the same. But we do need a way to make it impossible to mix
> these
> > up.
> > >
> > > The simplest way I can think of is to choose a new name for the other
> > > method involved. Users probably won't write transform.expand(input)
> since
> > > they will never have seen it in any examples, etc. This will just make
> > > PTransform authors need to do a global rename, and the type system will
> > > direct them to all cases so there is no silent failure possible.
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > Kenn
> > >
> > > [BEAM-438] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BEAM-438
> > > [PR #1538] https://github.com/apache/incubator-beam/pull/1538
> > >
> > > p.s. there is a really amusing and confusing call chain:
> > PCollection.apply
> > > -> Pipeline.applyTransform -> Pipeline.applyInternal ->
> > > PipelineRunner.apply -> PTransform.apply
> > >
> > > After this change and work to get the runner out of the loop, it
> becomes
> > > PCollection.apply -> Pipeline.applyTransform -> PTransform.expand
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> > jbono...@apache.org
> > http://blog.nanthrax.net
> > Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >
>

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