Hi Bruce,

Thanks much for the update! I had been wondering and within a heartbeat of dropping the project, but this encouragement is keeping me active.

How do you think RSS will impact the user interface? For example, a section in one of the links you provided indicates that RSS could impact the search and retrieval functionality:

There are, however, secondary uses for such a syndication service -- that is, to provide access to archival issues resident within a feed repository. The hierarchical storage arrangements for archival issues suggest that one possible resource discovery mechanism might be to have feeds of feeds whereby a feed for an archival volume of issues would syndicate the access URIs for the feeds of the respective issues contained within that volume.

This arrangement could even be propagated up the hierarchy whereby a subscription year for a given serial might contain the feed URIs for the volumes within that year, or that a serial feed might contain the feed URIs for the subscription years for that serial.

Any comments? And given the issues for implementation, is the intended functionality stable enough to move ahead with some UI design?

Martha


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"Bruce D'Arcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:25:12 -0400
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Hi all,

List has been dead for awhile, so just a quick update.

David is away in the Outback for a long vacation. Before he left, he and I rattled some cages at Sun out of sheer frustration with the lack of communication we were getting about plans going forward. I've gotten a tentative response back today which is -- if not entirely reassuring -- at least suggests we're headed in the right direction.

In a nutshell, we need Sun to do some low-level changes to make it easy to do the things we want to do. Those changes are going to be made in the context of a more comprehensive OOo strategy to deal with embedded content. As Oliver Specht explained their perspective on this:

The outcome was that the bibliographic text field (the reference) will
be imported into a generic field that provides a DOM tree containing
anything inside of the bib-citation. Other in-paragraph content would
also be loaded into such a field. The Writer doesn't need to know
anything about the semantics of the contained elements.
The data-to-service linkage that is necessary for the Writer to find the
right service to manipulate the data has to be done using some kind of
registry.


I think this is a good direction because it ties the fate of citation stuff to a larger effort at OOo. But that will take some broader planning and implementation work that will take time. It also cannot happen (or even be planned) before they finish with the 2.0 release.

I will also be working on a proposal to upgrade the file level support some more in OpenDocument. We already had the citation proposal accepted. We now need to figured out the bibliographic metadata picture and the styling issue.

More information when I have it, but one issue that we're going to have to return to is the format: whether it's MODS, or something else. I've grown a little uncomfortable with standardizing on MODS.

Bruce


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