Bruce,

How does the question you raised for the GUI in this email differ from needing to cluster citations for any other reason? For example, having both a general bibliography and a reference list (which I raised in my architecture document), or the type of clustering example you raised recently (e.g., hand-written vs. written documents), or even the user-defined clustering of stored citations for a common work. It seems to me there is a critical common thread in all these different types of citation clustering.

Martha

Subject:
styling design question
From:
"Bruce D'Arcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:
Mon, 3 Oct 2005 19:49:08 -0400
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Hi,

I've been talking to the OpenDocument people about the possibility of including the citation style language (CSL) I designed in OpenDocument in some form.

http://xbiblio.sourceforge.net/csl.html

One issue they raised is that it doesn't really make use of the OD styling infrastructure. So I've been experimenting a bit with what it might mean to bring them closer in line.

Basically, it would primarily mean moving a lot of element content into attributes. This fragment, for example, is about 75% more compact than my current schema, and more in line with an OD approach:

    <names initialize-with="." and-as=" &amp;"/>
    <months jan="Jan" feb="Feb" mar="Mar" apr="Apr" may="May" jun="Jun"
      jul="Jul" aug="Aug" sep="Sep" oct="Oct" nov="Nov" dec="Dec"/>
    <locator unit="page" use-when="missing-volume-issue" single="p. "
      multiple="pp. "/>
    <locator unit="paragraph" single="¶ " multiple="¶¶ "/>
    <role term="editor" single="Ed. " multiple="Eds. "/>
    <role term="translator" single="tran. " multiple="trans. "/>
    <genre term="dissertation" value="PhD Dissertation"/>
    <genre term="letter" value="letter"/>
    <genre term="press release" value="press release"/>
    <genre term="memo" value="memo"/>
    <medium term="cdrom" value="CD-ROM"/>

OK, so it's a lot more compact (and probably faster to process as a result). What we give up with this approach is any possibility to add markup to attribute content. So for example, current OOo code to handle prefixes and suffixes for citations is handled in attributes. Hence, they can only ever be strings effectively.

Is that a reasonable tradeoff? How much of a compromise would it be worth it to get this into the OD file format?

And thinking about the document I posted the other day, how would people imagine configuring the styling for the example which has:

author name
... citation 1 ...
.... citation 2 ...

In other words, how would you see configuring a GUI such that you indicate that a) citations should be grouped by author, and b) that the group ought to be labeled with the author name, followed by a paragraph break? It might have bearing on the above.

Bruce


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