On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 03:39PM, Giridharan Kesavan wrote:
> The work I mentioned earlier was related to Hive and Pig switching
> to use Tez natively as compared to using Tez via the MR compat
> layer built into Tez. I don't have an answer on when hive or pig would
> get released with native Tez support, but I see hive getting tez support
> in the next release.
> Pig Tez integration work is still in progress and it might
> get fixed in the next pig release. And there is also
> a possibility this may not happen in the 0.8 timeline.
> 
> Tez is an independent project which already supports mapreduce
> via a compat. layer. AFAIK, it is not targeted just for pig or hive.
> Furthermore, users of MR, hive and pig can already make use of
> Tez by switching MR to run in tez-execution mode.
> 
> To answer Cos's question on testing efforts, we could run simple
> mapreduce like jobs (wordcount/ordered wordcount) to validate tez working.

Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification, Giri!

> When hive and pig is ready we can enhance hive and pig integration test
> suites
> to make use of Tez api's and certify those application's.
> 
> P.S: FWIW, the api is called doJobClientMagic() for the Tez-MR compat.
> layer. :)

Which proves my point, that I have no idea about it ;)

> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > I was about asking the same question essentially. As of right now, there's
> > no
> > downstream components are using Tez. Hence, sure: we'll get it into the
> > stack,
> > but there's nothing to use it with not test it on. So, how we can make sure
> > that the code doesn't bit-rot, etc.?
> >
> > And it isn't to give Giri any hard time, but just because there's no one
> > else
> > (as far as I know) in this community with any knowledge about that project.
> >
> > Cos
> >
> > P.S. I guess I wasn't totally accurate in my last statement. I know that
> > Tez
> > API has a method doClientMagic(). But that's all I know. Swear!
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 01:15PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> > > My question is really asking for a guesstimate on when Tez, Hive, and Pig
> > > all converge to a released state. I guess for Hive that would be release
> > > 0.13. For Pig? Pardon me if I am mistaken but I thought Tez targets those
> > > like Hive and Pig developers, not end users of MapReduce, Hive, or Pig.
> > Can
> > > we assume Hive and Pig when released with support for Tez will depend on
> > > the same version of Tez? All of this is unlikely to happen within the
> > > timeframe of Bigtop 0.8? Should we be talking about this for 0.9?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Giridharan Kesavan <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Andrew,
> > > >
> > > > Hive on tez is fixed in the hive trunk and should be part of the next
> > > > release, 0.13
> > > > Here is the link to the jira.
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HIVE-4660
> > > >
> > > > Pig on tez integration is tracked here
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PIG-3446
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Giri
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Andrew Purtell <[email protected]
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > At some point other components like Hive and Pig will want to pull in
> > > > Tez,
> > > > > but as far as I know no released versions use it yet. Can you shed
> > some
> > > > > insight on when that might be Giri?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Giridharan Kesavan <
> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can we include Tez-0.2.0  to the 0.8 BOM?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have working patch uploaded to BIGTOP-1179
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Giri
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Mark Grover <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for starting this email thread, Roman! I posted my
> > opinion on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > JIRA.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Andrew Purtell <
> > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Welcome back Roman.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Likewise, I've been tied up with the day job but next month I
> > can
> > > > > > > > do BIGTOP-1105/BIGTOP-1148, and BIGTOP-1029 for HBase 0.98.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Roman Shaposhnik <
> > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > First of all, I'd like to apologize for disappearing for
> > > > > > > > > about a month from my RM duties of Bigtop 0.8.0 release.
> > > > > > > > > New job brought so much excitement into my life
> > > > > > > > > that I couldn't do justice to 0.8.0.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The good news, though, is that I am almost back to
> > > > > > > > > my regular schedule now and I really would like
> > > > > > > > > to make sure that we start real work on Bigtop 0.8.0
> > > > > > > > > ASAP.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To that end, I've updated:
> > > > > > > > >     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-1110
> > > > > > > > > with a proposed BOM and platform details.
> > > > > > > > > It doesn't have to be 100% accurate (we
> > > > > > > > > can still tweak versions somewhat) but lets
> > > > > > > > > make sure it aligns with the entire community.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please comment on the JIRA. Or on this very email
> > > > > > > > > thread. Either one is good ;-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > Roman.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
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