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jay vyas commented on BIGTOP-1222:
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(rehashing my above question: still need a wiki page or something about this) 

I still dont understand fully why, for smoke tests, we care about maven 
dependencies at all?  

Smoke tests should test the command line hadoop invocations like

{noformat}
 hadoop fs -ls
 hbase shell -d create 't1','f1' 
 pig -x ....
{noformat}

These should gather their runtime info from /usr/lib/hadoop/lib, /urs/pig/lib, 
etc.  

Regarding carrots to potatoes: The end user's invocation of a hadoop command 
which delivers them some real insight into their big data problem space is the 
"real potatoes" that the smoke tests should be testing.  Right?

> Completely gradleize the bigtop smokes
> --------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: BIGTOP-1222
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-1222
>             Project: Bigtop
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Build
>    Affects Versions: 0.7.0
>            Reporter: jay vyas
>
> Currently, there is a JIRA underway to make running the maven based smoke 
> tests easier:  BIGTOP-1195.  
> Eventually, however, maybe we could run these smokes from gradle.    I think 
> that will obviate BIGTOP-1195 (Although i still assert a bash driver is a big 
> win/gain for bigtop's goals : which are to unify the hadoop packaging and 
> deployment paradigm).
> - run the smokes using a simple gradle goal
> - smokes should be easily runnable as scripts, with no need for jar file 
> intermediates.
> - The bash driver for BIGTOP-1195 (if accepted, still under debate) should be 
> upgraded to use the new gradle smokes
> - Delete old maven smokes. 
> This might be a little ambitious, if so others chime in.  I'm not a 
> gradle/groovy expert but getting more well versed.  



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