Fine by me. I have linked this thread to the JIRA ticket that RJ created, so
we have a way to connect one to another ;)

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 01:02PM, Olaf Flebbe wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am not confident that moving important design discussions with impact to
> the whole project to jira is a good idea.
> 
> In the current JIRA Traffic storm it is not easy to identify and follow 
> important tickets.
> 
> Please keep discussions on the list or at least, please state on this list 
> which Ticket to follow ...
> 
> Olaf
> 
> 
> 
> > Am 26.08.2015 um 22:56 schrieb Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]>:
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:38PM, Olaf Flebbe wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> Nive to have data generators in Bigtop.
> >> 
> >> But please do not include it in bigtop_utils, since this package is
> >> mandatory. Not everyone needs a data generator .
> > 
> > Yup. And let's move further design discussion to the JIRA!
> > 
> >> Olaf
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> Am 26.08.2015 um 11:25 schrieb Jay Vyas <[email protected]>:
> >>> 
> >>> Publishing the jar to bigtops maven is probably a good first step ,Then 
> >>> apps can just include it as needed...?.
> >>> 
> >>> I'm not against packaging if someone wants packages for this.  Maybe even 
> >>> include it in bigtop util ?
> >>> 
> >>> Let's move to jira,
> >>> 
> >>>> On Aug 25, 2015, at 9:41 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> It is pretty cool indeed!
> >>>> 
> >>>> I wonder how it needs to be structured to be:
> >>>> - easy to access/use from other components wherever it is needed
> >>>> - doesn't interfere with the rest of the stack
> >>>> 
> >>>> I guess one possible way would be to implement the generator as a set of 
> >>>> maven
> >>>> artifacts, that could be installed/consumed transparently by just 
> >>>> declaring a
> >>>> dependency e.g as proposed via top-level component.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Another way is to have a new package like we do for bigtop-utils and 
> >>>> such.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Perhaps this discussion should be moved to JIRA or shall we continue on 
> >>>> the
> >>>> dev@ ??
> >>>> 
> >>>> Cos
> >>>> 
> >>>>> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:53AM, RJ Nowling wrote:
> >>>>> Hi BigTop,
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I had a discussion with Jay yesterday, we'd like to propose a new 
> >>>>> component
> >>>>> for BigTop: BigTop Data Generators.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> BigTop Data Generators would consist of a common set of libraries for
> >>>>> building data generators and three example data generators:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>  * BigPetStore transaction generator (moved from BigPetStore)
> >>>>>  * BigTop Bazaar -- attendee movement and interactions with booths on a
> >>>>> showroom floor, at a conference, or at a mall
> >>>>>  * BigTop Weatherman -- stochastic weather simulation (temperature, wind
> >>>>> speed, wind chill, rainfall, etc.) per zip code.  (From a model trained 
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> NOAA historical weather data)
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> We believe that creating a common set of libraries will have several
> >>>>> benefits including:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>   * Easier for others to build their own data generators
> >>>>>   * Make data generators smaller and easier to maintain
> >>>>>   * Share improvements across the data generators
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> More details on the libraries are below.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> BigPetStore will be continue to focus on building  and maintaining
> >>>>> blueprints, powered by the BigTop Data Generators.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Our vision is that we get all of Apache coming to BigTop for tools for
> >>>>> building better, more comprehensive blueprints.  We want to support 
> >>>>> these
> >>>>> efforts through data generators and the initial set of blueprint we've 
> >>>>> been
> >>>>> building.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> If the community is generally in support of this, I can create a 
> >>>>> top-level
> >>>>> "bigtop-data-generators" directory and put the data generators and
> >>>>> libraries in there.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> RJ
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> -------
> >>>>> Library details:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> So far, I've extracted the following common libraries:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>   * Samplers -- provides classes for PDFs and various samplers
> >>>>>   * Name generator -- data set and samplers for generating names
> >>>>>   * Location data set -- data set and classes for US zip codes, their
> >>>>> GPS coordinates, median house hold incomes, and population sizes
> >>>>>   * Product generator -- library for enumerating products from a
> >>>>> specification file.  Comes with default specifications for BigPetStore
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I also expect that I'll add libraries for:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>    * Particle simulation -- customer movement in a room
> >>>>>    * Latent factor model generation -- generate latent factors and
> >>>>> customer weights to create something like MovieLens data.  Used in 
> >>>>> Bazaar
> >>>>> for booth preferences and potentially in BigPetStore for customer item
> >>>>> preferences
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Most of these libraries came out of the BigPetStore data generator but 
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> other generators have been refactored to be based off the standard set 
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> libraries.
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> 


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